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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    At which point I decide which lives hold more value to me, and to be honest the Unsundered Ancients hold more value to me than the Sundered, who seem to have quite a bit of skill at destroying themselves than the Unsundered ever did.
    You've said exactly that you value the unsundered more than the sundered, a few times before this, in fact. So I'm not sure why I ever expected you to choose otherwise.

    Ironically, despite what you were always saying, you never were choosing to save your fellow man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    You've said exactly that you value the unsundered more than the sundered, a few times before this, in fact. So I'm not sure why I ever expected you to choose otherwise.

    Ironically, despite what you were always saying, you never were choosing to save your fellow man.
    Except I was, because I consider the Ancients much closer to "my fellow man" than I ever considered the Sundered.
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    I just find it incredibly convenient that the writers managed to make it work where the protagonists are able to not only create a branching timeline but do so where both timelines people(main cast that is) are effectively safe and fine. Yet now fast forward to this expansion and all of a sudden all of this just….isn’t possible. All of a sudden it’s the ancients are doomed no matter what and there’s no way time travel would help. Which is a bit ironic considering one of the main themes in not only this game but also the ff series as a whole is defying fate. This is something even the twins reference in UT saying “they will defy fate no matter the cost.” Well….why doesn’t this apply twofold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I just find it incredibly convenient that the writers managed to make it work where the protagonists are able to not only create a branching timeline but do so where both timelines people(main cast that is) are effectively safe and fine. Yet now fast forward to this expansion and all of a sudden all of this just….isn’t possible. All of a sudden it’s the ancients are doomed no matter what and there’s no way time travel would help. Which is a bit ironic considering one of the main themes in not only this game but also the ff series as a whole is defying fate. This is something even the twins reference in UT saying “they will defy fate no matter the cost.” Well….why doesn’t this apply twofold?
    Because traveling through time does not by itself mean that you have solved the problem. Graha didn’t just go to the last and tell everyone what was going to happen, he followed an exact plan. One that leveraged the knowledge he had to allow for maximum impact. Going back to the Ancient world doesn’t surmount the inherent problems that make untangling the Meteion-Dynamis knot difficult. That’s why people are saying it’s not going to work out like that. And on thr theme angle, that’s your opinion and I respect that.
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