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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brinne View Post
    But the constant citation of "Hythlodaeus seemed ok" is... extremely Something. Meanwhile, the other souls are known as "Anguished Spirit," "Forlorn Spirit," and other such cheerful monikers in this zone literally named "The Sea of Sorrow."
    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Yes the “hazy fog” they were in was certainly terrible. You seem to desperately want to strawman into the position that I believe that being in Zodiark was some sort of party, it wasn’t. But it also wasn’t “hell.” If it was as terrible as you say, then why did they say:

    ["We are the will of the star, now and forever!"]

    Kind of an odd statement if you were in unending torment.
    Between these two apparently conflicting examples, I would like to make a suggestion, in line with my previous thoughts on the individuals becoming a single amalgamated primal will but also able to be individually plucked out again – it seems like they might act one way while they are within Zodiark but if individuals split out from the pack somehow, that's when they become self-aware and confused.

    Maybe that happens naturally all the time that one or two drift off briefly and then they merge back in and resume being part of Zodiark, or maybe it's a consequence of the attack on Zodiark's bindings causing him to "fray" a bit. I'd have to go over the segment again and see exactly what is said about them.
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Between these two apparently conflicting examples, I would like to make a suggestion, in line with my previous thoughts on the individuals becoming a single amalgamated primal will but also able to be individually plucked out again – it seems like they might act one way while they are within Zodiark but if individuals split out from the pack somehow, that's when they become self-aware and confused.

    Maybe that happens naturally all the time that one or two drift off briefly and then they merge back in and resume being part of Zodiark, or maybe it's a consequence of the attack on Zodiark's bindings causing him to "fray" a bit. I'd have to go over the segment again and see exactly what is said about them.
    I'm wondering if it may not be because Elidibus left as the heart of Zodiark all those years. While yes the sundering and imprisonment put then into a lull and the rejoinings caused them to wake up with out the "glue" that really held them together.

    I mean once fanny Danny took over look how quickly he told the souls to STFU and such and made them leave. *shrugs*
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