Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

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It just strikes me as odd that they wouldn't spell out something like that clearly when it would've likely convinced more people that Venat was right and the MSQ narrative was already trying to spin things that way to begin with.

After recalling that thread about localization, though, I'm wondering how that particular quote was worded in the other translations because it's another example of something that can potentially give off a very different impression.

I doubt they felt the need to. The Ascians have shown themselves incredibly selective about who they extend moral consideration. Logically the idea that Venats faction is suggesting to turn over the world to the Behemoths and Morbols of the world doesn’t make much sense, as it wouldn’t achieve their goal and would more likely lead to dismissing their criticisms out of hand. Not to mention the idea requires a great deal of gymnastics even when viewed from the side of the Convocation. In this interpretation of events the Convocation wouldn’t actually need to sacrifice half of the world, as apparently other sources of aether could suffice, nor would they need to sacrifice the denizens of the Source in order to bring them back. We would need a better reason for their decision, or we would have to accept that they haphazardly choose the method they did.

Putting aside how absolutely mind-boggling it is to me to assert that you should reasonably expect people to just suck up and live with knowing that their loved ones are locked into a fate worse than death for eternity

See this is the problem woth this discussion. My position that I don’t think it right to sacrifice living beings in order to bring back their loved ones is somehow telling into me telling grieving families to suck it up. I can have the deepest empathy for someone’s loss while recognizing that their grief doesn’t justify sacrifice. The fact is those souls in Zodiark willingly gave up their bodies to become Him knowing what that meant.

Also where does it come from now they were “locked in a fate worse than death?” Hyth certainly seemed to be ok, all things considered.

- I suppose that's still a matter of personal perspective, no matter how much I may boggle - and the loaded questions regarding the specifics of the sacrifices to which nobody has any actual concrete answers - there is one thing brought up that does have an answer in the text:

Because at the time they managed to summon Zodiark and stabilize the situation, everything else was dead. The planet was on fire. The waters were poisoned. The wind had ceased to blow. There was literally nothing left to use except Ancient souls. That was the entire reason for the plan to gradually nurture other forms of life back into the planet until it was "bursting with vitality," so "a portion of it" could then be safely swapped with the trapped Ancients.

So there were no crystals? No other sources of aether at all? And the Ascians, when sacrificing those on the Source, are just doing it out of spite?

Good, that spares us from having to debunk said exhaustive list again.

“Debunk” is not the word to describe the responses to that list of reasons I’ve seen.