i'm sick and tired of the excuse for not having unique or varied jobs

[Deveryn]

Reaper very much has its own identity being rather on the twitchy side for all the different skills you'll hit. It's a whirlwind of murder Chain this. chain that. Pop gauge. Chain more. Reapply DoT. Chain chain chain.

An FC mate described it as a job one doesn't really play if they're trying to wind down for sleep.

[VirusOnline]

Ehh can't say you're wrong but Idk if I agree there. Having something completely different isn't the only indicator. It could be something similar but works differently or has different effect. Tank invuln for example, none of the 4 have the same effects as the other. It's smart for Paladin to pop theirs at anytime. Not so much for a Gunbreaker.
Different example being classes like Repear, Monk, Sam and Ninja having mitigation skills yet Reaper is the one that gets a party wide after effect to it. Monks comes with a personal True North (think that's what's its called). Sam USE to have extra healing part (wish that was buffed not removed). That to me still gives these classes an identity. I just don't think it's a stark as folks would like is all

fair points and a year ago i would have said the same, but i've been able to main dragoon, nin, mnk, dnc, and paladin over the year and maybe if i could show you just how diluted it all is:
each melee has true north
each dps gives a form of rdps
each dps has a personal heal and all melees have role heal and mit
also you are forgetting brotherhood from monk
selfish dps aren't really selfish, their party buffs are simply "hidden" behind a consistent adps

it's also a false sense of give and take with your tank example
basically each tank has a free life which is utilised every single boss in a raid tier
it's become the norm and is no longer an identity for anyone other thank tank
in reality invuln only makes sense (to me) for paladins only - now then would this become an identity for a class vs a role
and it would wihtout a doubt make paladin meta

it's just honestly a lot of overwriting, a lot of buffs, and all for the sake of cookie for you, cookie for me, rather than "lets plan how each job brings different things to help the party as a whole and try to minimise meta"
whilst each class is currently self sufficient but it comes at the cost of the below
self sufficiency destroys being able to rely on others and identity is drastically lowered

WoW warlocks are just a really good example to class identity imo

Reaper very much has its own identity being rather on the twitchy side for all the different skills you'll hit. It's a whirlwind of murder Chain this. chain that. Pop gauge. Chain more. Reapply DoT. Chain chain chain.

An FC mate described it as a job one doesn't really play if they're trying to wind down for sleep.

not to be an ass, but thats exactly what the issue is
4/5 (80%) of those whirlwinds of murder you just listed has a commonality with nearly every single job
chain being the culprit