What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Lauront]

"Yeah. But it'll be on our own, unique terms."

By Forging Ahead.

Yeah, everything about that philosophical trapping has a very "fatalist" outlook to it

I am eagerly awaiting for them to turn fate into the final (?) big bad. They already have the asset models in 7R, after all.

Venat's "love" for mankind feels a lot like an abusive parent who "accepts" their child while doing nothing to actually show that love.

I was looking up a line in Japanese and stumbled across this. Whereas I felt creeped out by this "personal" connection, after my character's hand was more or less narratively forced into helping her with her scheme apparently some people enjoyed it and would've liked more of it.

The insistence on the "love" angle was another part of what made Venat's writing so insecure, and the sense that deep down, it knew that what it was trying was shaky and didn't work. And the hard overcompensation on it - especially because the technique of "NPC loves the WoL = popular NPC" has usually been very effective up until this point - led to a lot of us making connections towards the absolute cliches of abuse rhetoric and victim-blaming. Which I'm sure never occurred to the writers, but here we are.



The single member of present day humanity who embodies Venat's ideology and methods most is unironically Ilberd Feare.

I'm just impressed that they were able to dial it up even further in the Codex entry on her. And I agree, it's why this "Venat is an ancient" explanation Yoshi comes up just fails to convince me. We already had sundered antagonists think and act in very similar ways. The only difference is their narrative treatment and the scale of it. With that said, it appears to have convinced some players who, in spite of everything else we know of them, believe a genocide a day was just in their DNA.