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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    Oh lol I thought it was back on. I've been going inside my house for the last few months for nothing then
    It's good to get into the habit of doing it, honestly. I've been doing it myself so it becomes a routine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    I also see a third choice.

    3. Not do or say anything until something changes.
    Yes, I could also sit in silence and never once complain about anything because SE is god I'm a good little gamer who simply pays my money and praises them as good and great no matter what they do nor how bad it is. OR. OR!!!! OR I could not be muzzled like I'm 5 years old and suggest things that I'm thinking-so here I am! Here I am,

    Turn Housing Demolition on, please! It's time-it's been time for quite a while now! Please tell us how much longer it will be on if it must still be kept on! Ty for reading!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But.... SE is Japanese.... What even is this logic....
    You'd be surprised how many rather "interesting" individuals consider asians in general to just be "white people".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    You'd be surprised how many rather "interesting" individuals consider asians in general to just be "white people".
    Well even the mighty Lord considered them as "Asia's Aryans"
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    You know, the war between North Korea and South Korea isn't over either. They are in a perpetual stalemate.

    The point I'm making is that there will always be a reason to keep the timer off. If not the Russia/Ukraine conflict, then it will be millions of displaced refugees that aren't settled for years. Or the millions of displaced refugees from Syria years ago. Or an earthquake. Or a hurricane.

    The precedent Square Enix has set will always beg the question: If SE shut off the auto-demo timer for X, then why not for Y?

    If SE recognizes that natural and man-made disasters are reasons to stop the loss of virtual real estate in a video game for those affected... then maybe they should realize the ridiculousness of their system in the first place. The pausing and restarting the auto-demolition timer isn't the solution. Remove the timer entirely and change the system so all players can have housing going forward.
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    Wait the timer is OFF ?

    "take note" thanks for the heads up, i missed that information !
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    Theres always conflict going on and wouldn't ones from Ukraine be playing on the EU database. So the Jp and NA database shouldn't have it turned off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    If SE recognizes that natural and man-made disasters are reasons to stop the loss of virtual real estate in a video game for those affected... then maybe they should realize the ridiculousness of their system in the first place. The pausing and restarting the auto-demolition timer isn't the solution. Remove the timer entirely and change the system so all players can have housing going forward.
    Ultimately it's this. Square Enix added the auto demolition system, after the housing wards were added, due to the fact some players go inactive. Regardless of the reason why someone goes inactive, the current limited availability housing system necessitates this timer.

    Changing the housing system to an entirely different ownership model, whether that be instanced housing or simply throwing more wards at the problem, is something you do with an expansions release and if it were going to change in 6.x we'd have been told already. Until then, the existing system NEEDS an active timer for the majority of an expansions life-cycle for the system to be fully functional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    Wait the timer is OFF ?

    "take note" thanks for the heads up, i missed that information !
    It's been off since Endwalker released due to the insane server queues
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Theres always conflict going on and wouldn't ones from Ukraine be playing on the EU database. So the Jp and NA database shouldn't have it turned off.
    To be fair, SE didn't mention ze war. The playerbase just didn't look further than the headlines at the time.

    They said "current world situation" which is quite wider than just Ukraine/Russia (which is still biting all of us right now on energy and by christmas on semiconductors).

    The whole world is a bit of hell-in-a-handbasket right now. Job losses, inflation, prices at the bowser, electricity bills, rate rises. And with a likely bulk of the playing demographic being middle aged or under, money is tighter for quite a portion of them.

    For all those people finding it harder to play because petroleum is pushing US$1.33 (USA) -> US$1.78 (Canada) -> US$2.86 (Norway) a litre - or who's mortage/rent just went up $400 a month, or who's food just went up 30%
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    You know, the war between North Korea and South Korea isn't over either. They are in a perpetual stalemate.
    And both sides, for better or worse, go about their lives as normal. North Koreans are unable to use the open internet and therefore never had FFXIV accounts. South Koreans are heavy internet users and potentially FFXIV account users but remain provided with easy internet access and no threat to their "normal" way of life.

    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    The point I'm making is that there will always be a reason to keep the timer off.
    No there really won't. There are a few certain points that the FFXIV team seems to consider when turning it on and off. For every time I can think of it was a large impact to subscribers that may prevent or make it difficult for them to play. There is not always an event with these effects.



    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    If not the Russia/Ukraine conflict, then it will be millions of displaced refugees that aren't settled for years. Or the millions of displaced refugees from Syria years ago. Or an earthquake. Or a hurricane.
    The world is a tumultuous place.. but it is not always affecting FFXIV to a degree that warrants demo pausing.


    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    The precedent Square Enix has set will always beg the question: If SE shut off the auto-demo timer for X, then why not for Y?
    It does not. It's easily seen they will decide when it effects enough people (who potentially play FFXIV) they will decided to stop demos. A hurricane or war in a 3rd world country or other such undeveloped area would not. All X's are not Y's.



    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    If SE recognizes that natural and man-made disasters are reasons to stop the loss of virtual real estate in a video game for those affected... then maybe they should realize the ridiculousness of their system in the first place. The pausing and restarting the auto-demolition timer isn't the solution. Remove the timer entirely and change the system so all players can have housing going forward.

    I mean.. solving the housing limitation is the ultimate solution for pretty much everyones problems... but for whatever reason has not been an option for 8 years.
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