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  1. #121
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    I gotta be negative again. After the 2020 trailer, the main things I wanted to see to ease concerns were back-to-roots FF elements like a party system, vibrant fantasy locations and a battle system that can slow down enough for you to issue commands.

    The 2022 trailer doubled down on being a very un-FF game with solo character action combat and western fantasy style drab brown barren lands. After FF XV was a very unconventional FF, they had a chance to realign the series with the signature JRPG style that the brand was built on. Instead they signalled its extinction.

    Hardly any games these days are made to suit my taste, so the lack of competition means this thing is still on my radar by default. I just hope that somewhere inside it hides a nice JRPG with memorable characters, tactical considerations in how you build your character / equipment, light-hearted bits in the story, locations that aren't just brown and grey, etc. Don't just be a more-style-than-substance fighting game with all these big animations but you can hardly tell what the F is going on and you're mostly spamming the same button.
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  2. #122
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    It's still too early for me to judge tbh, would rather wait for the fully release.

    That being said, the combat director Ryota Suzuki was also involved in Devil May Cry 5 and Dragon's Dogma, so I can almost guarantee combat will have a lot more depth than some would think.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    That being said, the combat director Ryota Suzuki was also involved in Devil May Cry 5 and Dragon's Dogma.
    Please don't compare Dragon's Dogma combat with DMC5. Both are completely different, and I like DD combat system (If it includes attacking monsters from their weak spots, climbing their back and the stuff like this)
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    Please don't compare Dragon's Dogma combat with DMC5. Both are completely different, and I like DD combat system (If it includes attacking monsters from their weak spots, climbing their back and the stuff like this)
    I just said he was involved with both of them lmao.
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  5. #125
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    Kaimir Barone
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    yes I am
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I gotta be negative again. After the 2020 trailer, the main things I wanted to see to ease concerns were back-to-roots FF elements like a party system, vibrant fantasy locations and a battle system that can slow down enough for you to issue commands.

    The 2022 trailer doubled down on being a very un-FF game with solo character action combat and western fantasy style drab brown barren lands. After FF XV was a very unconventional FF, they had a chance to realign the series with the signature JRPG style that the brand was built on. Instead they signalled its extinction.

    Hardly any games these days are made to suit my taste, so the lack of competition means this thing is still on my radar by default. I just hope that somewhere inside it hides a nice JRPG with memorable characters, tactical considerations in how you build your character / equipment, light-hearted bits in the story, locations that aren't just brown and grey, etc. Don't just be a more-style-than-substance fighting game with all these big animations but you can hardly tell what the F is going on and you're mostly spamming the same button.
    In regards to the hopes of a back to roots and FF elements and FFXVI. Given the average amount of time in the past decade or so game development takes. This title was well on its way through development before SE made the decision to sell off the western IPs and studios. So it's quite possible we may see this in FFXVII or the title after it as it feels like most of the things people complain about or didnt like with the most recent installments were attempts at tuning the series to be more appealing to western gamers.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    western fantasy style drab brown barren lands.
    So are you saying you see XIV as western fantasy style drab brown barren lands? There were quite a few places that looked outright lifted from the game. One in particular looked just like Vesper Bay. It could be that we've only see the Thanalan type of area and they're saving the other areas for later. We also don't know for sure there isn't a party. Lightning and Noctis were shown solo in their early looks, too.
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  8. #128
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    So YoshiP wants to include mature content (18+ lewd stuff) and show it fully because it adds more value to the story.
    I'm not sure what value they're talking about unless they're speaking of GoT value
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    So YoshiP wants to include mature content (18+ lewd stuff) and show it fully because it adds more value to the story.
    I'm not sure what value they're talking about unless they're speaking of GoT value
    Or could be more violence and blood. They went that route in Type-0 and this has always given me Type-0 vibes.

    We also know there is some sort of AI-controlled party but not exactly how that will all work.
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 06-24-2022 at 05:44 AM.

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    So YoshiP wants to include mature content (18+ lewd stuff) and show it fully because it adds more value to the story.
    I'm not sure what value they're talking about unless they're speaking of GoT value
    I think he meant more graphic/violent stuff as opposed to lewd/sexual stuff when he was talking about including more mature content. XVI's story seems like it's going to be more of a political/war thriller then an interpersonal, fantasy journey.
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