Is the WoL actually good though?

[TheMightyMollusk]

Or it's because Halric and Ga Bu are harmless while the broodmother is out ordering war and murder.

[Theodric]

Or it's because Halric and Ga Bu are harmless while the broodmother is out ordering war and murder.

Before a cure was developed for Tempering the Tempered were not considered to be harmless as they would inevitably try and work towards bringing forth the Primal that they were Tempered by. Tesleen died in large part due to Halric, from what I recall.

It took time, effort and resources to isolate and care for both Halric and Ga Bu. Personally I think a pregnant woman is exactly the sort of individual that the Warrior of Light and Scions should have moved mountains in order to save. Sure, it would have taken a lot of convincing and not necessarily even worked but it always made me raise an eyebrow at how quickly she was written off.

Furthermore, the territorial dispute and war was only escalated as a direct result of the method of arrival for the Scions. Namely Bismarck's magical bubble.

In the end, I don't think the circumstances matter all that much. At the end of the day the Warrior of Light and the Scions put down a pregnant woman and that, to me, places them firmly in the 'morally grey' category in my book. Which isn't the condemnation some may believe it to be but rather a reflection of reality and forced hands.

[DPZ2]

Before a cure was developed for Tempering the Tempered were not considered to be harmless as they would inevitably try and work towards bringing forth the Primal that they were Tempered by. Tesleen died in large part due to Halric, from what I recall.

It took time, effort and resources to isolate and care for both Halric and Ga Bu. Personally I think a pregnant woman is exactly the sort of individual that the Warrior of Light and Scions should have moved mountains in order to save. Sure, it would have taken a lot of convincing and not necessarily even worked but it always made me raise an eyebrow at how quickly she was written off.

The whole Ga Bu storyline is encircled with continuous fighting of the tempered Kobolds and the rest of Eorzea. We still killed them, and they still killed us. At no point did we decide to lay down arms during this time, although we did go out of our way to figure out a way to remove the tempering, bringing the Kobolds back to a level where we could actually start to develop a relationship that did not involve death and violence.

Note that this was two-fold: prevent the Kobolds from succeeding in calling Titan to help them dominate Eorzea, but also trying to figure out a way to untemper them so that they might be reasoned with.

The solution for Halric, as provided by Tesleen herself, was "a quick, painless death was better than becoming one of the Sin Eaters". It was providence that the death of the Light Warden provided breathing room to find a solution that did not involve eating a poisoned fruit.

As for that wonderful 'pregnant mother' ... The lead up to the dungeon instance includes the following discussion:

Tolshs Aath says "It is clear that their queen will sssoon give birth. They require space to raise their young, and food for both queen and hatchlings to thrive.
Y'shtola says "Well, we can hardly fault them for that.
Tolshs Aath then talks about 'normal circumstances', followed by "They seek to build an army, and with it take revenge upon the finless. It is not a surprise. They came to us no long ago, seeking allies for the cause. We rebuffed them, of course ... Their queen, however, desires only bloodshed ..."
Y'shtola replies "I doubt this can be resolved without violence, but perhaps with a show of force we can convince them to see reason before the die is cast".

"Mom" wasn't having any of it ... one does not argue when violence is the chosen response to our arrival.