Is the WoL actually good though?

[Cleretic]

At this point I'm pretty sure Necrotica's a troll, she only seems to turn up here to go 'but what if the WoL is A BAD GUY' or 'but wouldn't it be good if we instead aligned with the villains', and never regularly engages with ongoing conversations, she just drops in to say things with no connection to other people after a few days. In fact, looking at her post history it seems to be her M.O. across all subforums except for PvP. ...and she seems to hate PvP, too.

I'm pretty sure we can't take seriously someone who suggested timeshares as a solution to the housing problem.

[Selvokaz]

At this point I'm pretty sure Necrotica's a troll, she only seems to turn up here to go 'but what if the WoL is A BAD GUY' or 'but wouldn't it be good if we instead aligned with the villains', and never regularly engages with ongoing conversations, she just drops in to say things with no connection to other people after a few days. In fact, looking at her post history it seems to be her M.O. across all subforums except for PvP. ...and she seems to hate PvP, too.

I'm pretty sure we can't take seriously someone who suggested timeshares as a solution to the housing problem.

It is true, that I don't frequent the boards as often, as I might like to, but then again you can look up my play time and history to see that I tend to log in and stay busy in the actual game. Also, there is a big wide internet out there, and believe it or not, this is not the only forum I hold conversations on, I mean there are but only so many waking hours, and I'll have even less time for forum **** posting when I'm back to working full time again. Lastly, not every post merits me responding directly to. If it gets the conversation rolling, and I happen to come back in a time period that isn't a week later, and thus the person I'm responding to is no longer engaged, then I will post. Besides, unless I'm mistaken, we're not getting notifications of direct responses on this forum. I literally have to find one of my posts then search my previous post then search replies to see if anyone said anything directly to me, or interesting that I want to respond to. Like it or not, I'm only one person.

[TheMightyMollusk]

The WoL starts as a general adventurer-mercenary and develops into a hero. Whether they're doing it to be the good guy for the sake of being the good guy, or for more pragmatic reasons ("Why do you want to save the world so bad?" "Because I live here too!"), is up to the player.

[Necrotica]

At this point I'm pretty sure Necrotica's a troll, she only seems to turn up here to go 'but what if the WoL is A BAD GUY' or 'but wouldn't it be good if we instead aligned with the villains', and never regularly engages with ongoing conversations, she just drops in to say things with no connection to other people after a few days. In fact, looking at her post history it seems to be her M.O. across all subforums except for PvP. ...and she seems to hate PvP, too.

I'm pretty sure we can't take seriously someone who suggested timeshares as a solution to the housing problem.

Preferring villains hardly qualifies me as a troll. Just means I enjoy different things than you. Same for forums use. Like to hop in during breaks at work, make some comments, go back to work. Nothing we say in these forums will ever change anything. So why not use them to vent or just have fun?

Having longer conversations and debates within posts can be fun, but can also go in circles. Like all the Hydaelyn defenders who are objectively wrong, bad people, and have dumb faces.

But to get back on the WoL moral status. ARR we seem to be written as murder hobo for hire. While they try to change that more throughout the expansions they can never erase it. And some of us don't want them to. I would love to be able to have conversation options where my fellow scions respond with discomfort and some 'calm down WoL, there is no need to kill them all'

[sidurgu-12]

Having longer conversations and debates within posts can be fun, but can also go in circles. Like all the Hydaelyn defenders who are objectively wrong, bad people, and have dumb faces.

and this is why you got called a troll lol.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Preferring villains hardly qualifies me as a troll. Just means I enjoy different things than you. Same for forums use. Like to hop in during breaks at work, make some comments, go back to work. Nothing we say in these forums will ever change anything. So why not use them to vent or just have fun?

Having longer conversations and debates within posts can be fun, but can also go in circles. Like all the Hydaelyn defenders who are objectively wrong, bad people, and have dumb faces.

But to get back on the WoL moral status. ARR we seem to be written as murder hobo for hire. While they try to change that more throughout the expansions they can never erase it. And some of us don't want them to. I would love to be able to have conversation options where my fellow scions respond with discomfort and some 'calm down WoL, there is no need to kill them all'

[Theodric]

There's many such examples though I'd highlight one in particular as to why the Warrior of Light and the Scions are morally grey at best. Namely that time when they decided to go and brutally murder a pregnant woman in Norvrandt who just so happened to be in the way as a consequence of being displaced by the actions of the protagonists themselves.

Reasons can be brought up as to why it was a grim necessity though I daresay when people have to start defending the death of pregnant women then it should not really be much of a surprise if others doubt the supposed 'overwhelming goodness' of the game's protagonists.

Of course, I suppose it helps that the pregnant woman in question was an off shoot of the Sahagin! I imagine the situation would be taken very differently by most if it was a pregnant woman who looked like Venat, Lyse or Y'shtola instead.

[TheMightyMollusk]

"Decided to go brutally murder a pregnant woman." Wow that's a hell of a take......

(Especially since the broodmother is not killed, there's a side quest chain to help her safely lay her eggs, but that wouldn't make it sound nearly as evil, right?)

[Theodric]

"Decided to go brutally murder a pregnant woman." Wow that's a hell of a take......

(Especially since the broodmother is not killed, there's a side quest chain to help her safely lay her eggs, but that wouldn't make it sound nearly as evil, right?)

What exactly is not 'brutal' about a pregnant woman being put down like a rabid dog?

That aside, the broodmother you are referring to belongs to a different tribe. The one slain in Anamnesis Anyder is someone different.

[TheMightyMollusk]

What exactly is not 'brutal' about a pregnant woman being put down like a rabid dog?

That aside, the broodmother you are referring to belongs to a different tribe. The one slain in Anamnesis Anyder is someone different.

My mistake on which broodmother, it's been a while.

Of course, you're also leaving out any context. Like how the broodmother in question was preparing to start a war and was willing to commit genocide on the Ondo if they didn't join her, or that they were displaced because of a literal apocalypse and violently refusing any attempts at peace. But "the Scions are murdering racists" is easier, I guess.