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  1. #11
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    ??? What is Hyperblast? There is Hypercharge, which has two charges (consumes 50 or 100 gauge), and Heat Blast... which is a GCD and thus has no use for charges (bankable recasts).

    Do you mean Overheated and stacks, respectively?
    I guess I'm still in the process of waking up, but yes.
    The fact that Bloodweapon has been changed to charges but not Heatblast spam and/or Wildfire is confusing.
    Especially when it's been requested since Bunshin got charges.

    Anyway, both are job requests. I don't care much if they're comparable or not, it's just to meme on both being questionable job direction.
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  2. #12
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    Is there anything else that consumes gauge that has stacks like that? I feel like most other abilities that give stacks are cool downs so they don't need to worry about "double casting" and how that would work. i.e. if you use Hypercharge twice, does the second use reset stacks to 5 or add 5 stacks? Would be interesting if it added 5. Hell, you could end up with 15 stacks if that were the case (100 gauge + Barrel Stabilizer) </cope></hope>


    Anyway, in response to the OP. Kaiten won't be back and Kenki generation will be lowered (halved) in 6.2 and potency on Kenki abilities will be increased.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    Is there anything else that consumes gauge that has stacks like that? I feel like most other abilities that give stacks are cool downs so they don't need to worry about "double casting" and how that would work. i.e. if you use Hypercharge twice, does the second use reset stacks to 5 or add 5 stacks? Would be interesting if it added 5. Hell, you could end up with 15 stacks if that were the case (100 gauge + Barrel Stabilizer) </cope></hope>


    Anyway, in response to the OP. Kaiten won't be back and Kenki generation will be lowered (halved) in 6.2 and potency on Kenki abilities will be increased.
    No, nothing that consumes gauge is on a stack cooldown that I'm aware of. And if they did exist, they'd do what anything else on a stacked cooldown does most likely, which is cancel out whatever you already had to be reapplied. Only real instance of that I can say for certain as an example is Aurora from GNB their regen becomes 2 stacks later, and those don't double up. Then there's Meikyo Shisui on SAM.

    As for the request to OP, we'll, probably a myriad of innocuous things will happen, most likely, idk
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    What will happen " First "

    Will Samurai 6.1 changes and/or Kaiten removal Feedback get acknowledged and addressed?
    Or will 1 or more of the following in the list below happen first

    • MogStation purchasables - Adventure Plate Features
    • Next Live Letter
    • UI and HuD updated
    • Visual Graphics update
    • Hrothgar/Viera head glamour fixed
    • New Job releases
    • Reaper gets buffed
    • New Savage Dungeon
    • New Gold Saucer mini-games
    • FF7 Remake 2 releases
    • Sanctuary releases
    • We get in-game Chat Bubbles
    • Thancred dies
    • Machinist gets buffed
    • All of MSQ from ARR to EW can be done with the Trust system
    • Kick/Ban function implemented for home owners
    • Happy 2023
    • FFXVI (16) releases
    • Urianger dies
    • More new Hrothgar Mogstation hairstyles
    • New Expansion released
    • Female Hrothgar releases
    • All normal Dungeons, Trials and Raids can be done with the Trust System
    • Y'Shtola gets stuck in the lifestream, again
    • Function to deny in-game Friend requests without the Busy status
    • The usage of the words parse/barse/color-shopping becomes bannable
    • Blitzball gets added to the game
    • Next Deep dungeon releases
    • Blackmage gets reworked
    • Immediate apology for reworking Blackmage
    • Blackmage rework changes gets reverted immediately after
    • All Extreme and Savage difficulty content can be done with the Trust System
    • Happy 2024
    • Alisaie dies
    • Whitemage gets more damage skills
    • Square adds first ever lootbox to the Mogstation
    • We can place limited NPC's with limited dialogue text in our houses
    • All Crafting skills are replaced with just 1 button per Crafting job
    • All Gathering skills are replaced with just 1 button per Gatherer job
    • Ultimate's can now be done with the Trust System
    • All jobs except BLM can only Auto-Crit now
    • New hunting log added
    • Alphinaud gets married
    • Implementation of in-game DPS meter
    • FFXIV is now playable on mobile phone
    • FFXIV becomes F2P with P2W features
    • Summoner gets re-reworked
    • Happy 2025
    • Krile dies
    • Kaiten Emote added to the Mogstation (works for all non-Samurai jobs)
    • Square apologizes for Kaiten emote not working for Samurai
    • Kaiten Emote now works for Bluemage as well
    • Square buffs boob and bust slider
    • All of the above happens

    Not saying any of the above are good or bad events,
    it's about " what's more likely to happen? "
    i can see them mentioning it in 6.2s live letter, but that they're gonna double down on it.
    that Yoshi is immensly sorry for Kaitens removal and that he never saw this coming to this extend, but that Kaitens removal is essential in balancing the job, but don't worry, 7.0 is around 2 years for now, look forward to improvements to the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdyllon View Post
    i can see them mentioning it in 6.2s live letter, but that they're gonna double down on it.
    that Yoshi is immensly sorry for Kaitens removal and that he never saw this coming to this extend, but that Kaitens removal is essential in balancing the job, but don't worry, 7.0 is around 2 years for now, look forward to improvements to the job.
    I can see that totally happening.... I don't want it to... but I can see that quite vividly
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    Resiliance triggering on command but Meikyo Shisui Effect will not
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdyllon View Post
    i can see them mentioning it in 6.2s live letter, but that they're gonna double down on it.
    that Yoshi is immensly sorry for Kaitens removal and that he never saw this coming to this extend, but that Kaitens removal is essential in balancing the job, but don't worry, 7.0 is around 2 years for now, look forward to improvements to the job.
    That's practically telling everyone playing samurai to go fuck themselves. Good way to lose a lot of paying customers.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    That's practically telling everyone playing samurai to go fuck themselves. Good way to lose a lot of paying customers.
    very true, but at the same time, Yoshi-P knew this was gonna be an controversial change, he said so in the live letter leading up to 6.1, he asked us to play with it and give it some time to sink in, which basically tells me.
    "i know the community loves Kaiten, but this skill makes our job harder, so screw them ... away it goes!" even though Kaiten could've been repurposed to fit their balancing fantasy since a lot liked it for the animation, flavour and ofcourse the kenki management aspect it provided.

    you'll never see anything this bad happen to black mage, because Yoshi actively plays that, i know this is 1 of those conspiracy theories, but let's be real, was Black Mage ever in an rough spot outside what the job always was ment to be? an turret/cannon that does a lot of damage, has it never provided just that? (maybe when Summoner was massively overtuned in Shadowbringers and it topped the charts easily, but that's not black mages fault, that's the balancing team behind Summoners fault)
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdyllon View Post
    you'll never see anything this bad happen to black mage, because Yoshi actively plays that, i know this is 1 of those conspiracy theories, but let's be real, was Black Mage ever in an rough spot outside what the job always was ment to be? an turret/cannon that does a lot of damage, has it never provided just that? (maybe when Summoner was massively overtuned in Shadowbringers and it topped the charts easily, but that's not black mages fault, that's the balancing team behind Summoners fault)
    Shadowbringers and Endwalker have both reduced turret status by a significant degree. You almost always have a slew of movement tools at your disposal . Most players aren't going to consider that "Bad", but Endwalker Blackmage is ranking 4 out of the 5 expansion iterations to this player.
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    We can definitely cross " Next Live Letter " off the list until the next one. Getting the feeling SE's gameplan can be reflected in this very well made video mhm, click below

    *** " Dev's: I have altered the Deal, pray I don't alter it any further " ***
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