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    LGBTQ+ issues are fairly local to countries with a Judeo-Christian background, especially in the USA where people are still actually killed for being LGBTQ+.
    I live in Japan, and the situation with LGBTQ+ is not as severe over here. You have multiple overtly LGBTQ+ people in media since a long time ago.
    Japanese literature, history, art is filled with LGBTQ+ material, so it probably doesn't occur to the devs that this is something to dedicate a month over.
    Similar situations exist in other Asian countries, such as Thailand, Philippines, South Korea, etc.

    Countries that are super-tough against LGBTQ would be places like Russia, countries that have a strict interpretation of Islam or Christianity (USA, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_of_Ebina View Post
    LGBTQ+ issues are fairly local to countries with a Judeo-Christian background, especially in the USA where people are still actually killed for being LGBTQ+.
    I live in Japan, and the situation with LGBTQ+ is not as severe over here. You have multiple overtly LGBTQ+ people in media since a long time ago.
    Japanese literature, history, art is filled with LGBTQ+ material, so it probably doesn't occur to the devs that this is something to dedicate a month over.
    Similar situations exist in other Asian countries, such as Thailand, Philippines, South Korea, etc.

    Countries that are super-tough against LGBTQ would be places like Russia, countries that have a strict interpretation of Islam or Christianity (USA, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc).



    Some churches have even started adding glitter to the ashes of Ash Wednesday as a tribute to the LGBTQIAA++ community.
    https://religionnews.com/2020/02/25/...-ash-wednesday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    Some churches have even started adding glitter to the ashes of Ash Wednesday as a tribute to the LGBTQIAA++ community.
    https://religionnews.com/2020/02/25/...-ash-wednesday
    I'm not even religious but that seems awfully sacrilegious. Wouldn't that upset a lot of the more traditional folks that go to that church? Then again, I have no idea about the mentality of the average western religious person, they might be cool with that now, lol. /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    I'm not even religious but that seems awfully sacrilegious. Wouldn't that upset a lot of the more traditional folks that go to that church? Then again, I have no idea about the mentality of the average western religious person, they might be cool with that now, lol. /shrug
    it is heretical, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post



    Some churches have even started adding glitter to the ashes of Ash Wednesday as a tribute to the LGBTQIAA++ community.
    https://religionnews.com/2020/02/25/...-ash-wednesday
    Can they even call themselves Christians from a Theological standpoint? Are they putting their judgement above that of the divine? I would respect them more if they held to their beliefs. No one respects those who try to play pretend or politically grift to survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    Can they even call themselves Christians from a Theological standpoint? Are they putting their judgement above that of the divine? I would respect them more if they held to their beliefs. No one respects those who try to play pretend or politically grift to survive.
    Reading this has made me lose braincells. You do realize that religion is made up, right? Religion can and has changed many times and if you are deadset on considering everyone who isnt straight an abomination, you literally doing that. You are 'putting your judgement above that of the divine'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Reading this has made me lose brain cells. You do realize that religion is made up, right? Religion can and has changed many times, and if you are deadset on considering everyone who isnt straight an abomination, you doing that. You are 'putting your judgement above that of the divine'.
    Yes, religion does change which is why in Christianity's case, there are dozens to hundreds of different churches all believing in other things because they can't agree on what is the word of god, the bible considered the act an unnatural one and the bible is the word of the divine which is why we are here in the first place.

    Even the Quran says this as its opening statement very merciful follow my path or incur my wrath or become an apostate. If God was merciful and compassionate and this all-loving crap why would he even consider wrath which is a sin proving god isn't infallible and isn't above sin itself. Why is there even a the concept of the day of Judgement very accepting but all of us heathens can burn in the fires of Gahanna or wallow in purgatory or if your Christian live on the first layer of hell with the good pagans?

    In the name of God (Allah), the Compassionate and Merciful. (2) Praise be to God, Lord of the worlds, (3) the Compassionate and Merciful, (4) Master of the Day of Judgement. (5) Thee we worship and from Thee we seek help. (6) Guide us upon the straight path, (7) the path of those whom Thou hast blessed, not of those who incur wrath, nor of those who are astray.”

    Its an English translation though so we shouldn't take it seriously right? Should I not take my native gods practices seriously because its not written in ancient Irish and continue to burn people in Wickerman to feed the forest and crops.

    Suppose you have to change the words of the divine itself to keep the religion alive throughout the centuries. Can you say the divine is all-knowing, especially with Christianity, because most of the book is Paul, and he only had visions of Jesus? Indeed, Jesus, in his ultimate form, would know all things and share a timeless truth that all followers could follow.

    This is why Science is destroying religion and philosophies written by the ancient Greeks and Romans are being followed more and more. Even Paganism is the fastest-growing religion in the west at this point.

    If you cannot keep your way of life and beliefs consistent and every time you want to change a schism occurs how can you ask others to follow it? The Muslims have done a good job keeping their way of life and beliefs consistent but they would throw me off a roof or stone me to death so no thanks but hay I respect them more than Christians who have shown themselves morally corrupt and weak.
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    The Pauline Epistles (Romans, Corinthians, Timothy, etc.) are basically the only New Testament source that can be said as condemning homosexuality among men. However, speaking of theological arguments, there's plenty of discussions going on on what exactly the original Classical Greek meant. Some scholars say the condemnation was strictly related to male prostitutes, or that it concerned relations between a master and his slave (both males).
    However, most all of current Christian denominations accept the Pauline Epistles (only a few small denominations such as the New Church (Swedenborgian) reject Paul).
    Churches that openly support and accept the LGBTQ+ community are brave, but if I were them I would abandon the belief system altogether to remain consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_of_Ebina View Post
    The Pauline Epistles (Romans, Corinthians, Timothy, etc.) are basically the only New Testament source that can be said as condemning homosexuality among men. However, speaking of theological arguments, there's plenty of discussions going on on what exactly the original Classical Greek meant. Some scholars say the condemnation was strictly related to male prostitutes, or that it concerned relations between a master and his slave (both males).
    However, most all of current Christian denominations accept the Pauline Epistles (only a few small denominations such as the New Church (Swedenborgian) reject Paul).
    Churches that openly support and accept the LGBTQ+ community are brave, but if I were them I would abandon the belief system altogether to remain consistent.
    Thus they are hypocrites which is also a sin. Not really a point to it now is there if your going to sin and can't agree on anything who cares. Might as well go back to worshipping the gods of old they do more for your culture or become an atheist. For example, what does more the Scandinavian culture in the modern world depictions of Christ or Thor, looks at the spanning modern works that include the god that people enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Reading this has made me lose braincells. You do realize that religion is made up, right? Religion can and has changed many times and if you are deadset on considering everyone who isnt straight an abomination, you literally doing that. You are 'putting your judgement above that of the divine'.
    If you are going to play the game you gotta follow the rules, it's not that hard. Besides, I doubt many are so assumptive they know what happens after death. Though it would be funny if a "god" existed. Would it have a sense of humor? Considering we have the concept of irony, it might.
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