What's even the point of doing savage?

[LianaThorne]

I'm not lost at all. But endgame is something to do when you have finished the game. And 99% of the thing you have in this game can be done BEFORE finishing the game. Thus, it's not endgame

Sandbox MMO you can do whatever you want whenever you want.I was a miner, a ganker and a fuel rat in elite dangerous for years. There was not fake endgame, it was just a game and you made your own game yourself.

Endgame speak for itself, it something you can do AFTER ending the game... So...

Something you gotta kinda wrap your head around with FF is that the MSQ is the original point of the game. The side content...let's be real, not a lot of people do all of it in order as you progress the MSQ. Some do, but most put it off until after they finish the story. Once you finish the story, you are in end game and all of the side content that you didn't touch because you were trying to finish the story becomes end game content.

That's how it works here. You're going to have to change your definition of what "end game" means or at least accept that your way of thinking isn't the only way to play the game here. If you're basing it just off what is level 90 content, yeah...you're going to be disappointed because we're early in patch content and they space it out across multiple. We're getting a new deep dungeon soon that might be more appealing.

Otherwise, there's pvp and a variety of older content to dip your toes into while you wait.

[FatalFatalis]

Hey all,

I started savage couple weeks ago, it's difficult but not that difficult either.

I'm actually on P3S and learn the mecha with my roster.

I wonder though, BIS taken appart, what's the point of the savage content? Just killing difficult boss?

For what? You can be full 600 ilvl (except weapon 595) only with memoquartz. What's even the point of learning and training hours just for killing a boss who gives you nothing really important.

I'm just curious, everyone seems so happy with how the actual endgame content are right now but i don't get it.

Even if you farm and you have everything BIS, in the next big patch when new ilvl release, the stuff from crafting will be 10 ilvl more than your actual BIS.

What's the point? How do you guys don't be bored of farming something that are not more useful than the other one which you don't need to farm to have it but just wait weeks and weeks...

You can't use your stuff on PVP and every roulette are sync so, your stuff means nothing, except for helping you killing the savage you already kill.

Even doing ultimate gives you nothing more except a skin... It just feel weird.

It's fun

/10char

[SamSmoot]

I'm happy with my 600 ilevel, and bumping the weapon up to that level would be an extremely minor boost with everything else at 600, so I don't bother with Savage content, (which would probably be miserable with PUGs.

[Kleeya]

I'm not lost at all. But endgame is something to do when you have finished the game. And 99% of the thing you have in this game can be done BEFORE finishing the game. Thus, it's not endgame

Sandbox MMO you can do whatever you want whenever you want.I was a miner, a ganker and a fuel rat in elite dangerous for years. There was not fake endgame, it was just a game and you made your own game yourself.

Endgame speak for itself, it something you can do AFTER ending the game... So...

Then we totally don't have the same concept of "end game". Seems like you are fixated on the idea that it is something to obligatory do at max level, with endless grinds to get better gears to get harder battles. For me my end game is just the goal i choose to reach at the moment with what the game provides me. For example a few months ago, on a sandbox game, my end game was to finish my port area with an oil rig which was the hardest craft to do in the game. I wasn't max level with the best stuff, and i didn't care.

I can even have several ends game at once. My currents ones are to get the zonure treasure maps achievements, and to continue getting some old relics. Is that max level content ? Nope. Do i care about the fact that it isn't lvl 90 hardcore activities ? Nope as well.

That being said, it is still doesn't change the fact that with your way of thinking, you would be better on Lost Ark, or on "this game don't value the players's time" World of Warcraft.

[pikalovr]

I mean yea when only people like you remain, it's gonna be an uphill battle. Work on your own performance and try to find a static, that's pretty much all you can do this late into the tier.

so it's clearly his fault he joined late? or the fact we have literally have no solo prerequisites to savage? or the rewards system? hell we're still locked to one drop a week like 5 months in. in a game that wants to promote playing multiple different jobs mind you. this right here is why everything gets to slide by without being looked at

oh just get into a static cause the devs can't make players at minimum pass the SSS dummy to access savage content. oh you wanna join the game late or not be caught up by endwalkers release. and finally get it finished say by 6.1. welp sorry little timmy you either have to find a static or pray to god you can get a clear for 1 party. and even thats a toss up considering how many players could've been carried or put in literally the minimal amount of effort to look like they know what they're doing. and yes you can still carry bad players through these savages. especially as more and more people hit BiS

[Gullis]

Whats the point of doing anything in any game?

[Ivtrix]

I'm not lost at all. But endgame is something to do when you have finished the game. And 99% of the thing you have in this game can be done BEFORE finishing the game. Thus, it's not endgame

Sandbox MMO you can do whatever you want whenever you want.I was a miner, a ganker and a fuel rat in elite dangerous for years. There was not fake endgame, it was just a game and you made your own game yourself.

Endgame speak for itself, it something you can do AFTER ending the game... So...

The first mistake was comparing FFXIV to a sandbox mmorpg

[george357]

savage content is a steping stone to ultimate content,to get the best gear.

[Saraide]

so it's clearly his fault he joined late? or the fact we have literally have no solo prerequisites to savage? or the rewards system? hell we're still locked to one drop a week like 5 months in. in a game that wants to promote playing multiple different jobs mind you. this right here is why everything gets to slide by without being looked at

oh just get into a static cause the devs can't make players at minimum pass the SSS dummy to access savage content. oh you wanna join the game late or not be caught up by endwalkers release. and finally get it finished say by 6.1. welp sorry little timmy you either have to find a static or pray to god you can get a clear for 1 party. and even thats a toss up considering how many players could've been carried or put in literally the minimal amount of effort to look like they know what they're doing. and yes you can still carry bad players through these savages. especially as more and more people hit BiS

This is literally the worst place to argue about the one drop per week rule. Remove that and PF will die even earlier. You need enough people good and consistent enough at the game to clear P3s, if a significant amount of those people are done with the tier and have moved on to other stuff (ultimate for example), your chances are going to be worse. Nobody wants to play this tier forever. Do you want to force people into a perpetual grind wheel with a savage tier for 8 months?

[Raoabolic]

Whats the point of doing anything in any game?

What's the point of doing anything? lol
We can have this nihilistic snowball fight all day but if none of the game interests you at all then why are you paying SE?