Why do casuals act as if it's the end of the world when suggesting?

[Caitlyn]

I still need to do Aglaia this week. I will record a video tonight and post to youtube so you can see just how much you "dont need to heal for the most part." Im probably not allowed to link to the video here, but it will be findable

Well, I did Aglaia with 23 random ppl and recorded it. Based on the recordings, I counted the healings and raises I did. Shields and Pneuma are counted as heals as well. It may not be 100% correct though.

To make things more interesting, I asked the random WHM not to heal (excluding Assize, which is part of his damage rotation). As far as I can tell, he barely healed, with the exception of Assize, a few raises and maybe the one or other Afflatus Solace (because it was a bit messy at the end).


Aglaia, 03.06.2022 22:41 - 33 mins total

Byregot: 9 heals
Rhalgrs Pet: 4 heals
Rhalgr: 16 heals and 2 raises (2 deaths)
Lions: 3 heals because DNC got aggro
Azeyma: 30 heals and 3 raises (5 deaths)
Naldthal: 31 heals and 2 raises (4 deaths)

Total: 93 heals and 7 raises (of 11 deaths) from my side. If some video evidence is needed, I can provide a link here or via discord. Someone even uploaded the logs lol.

93 heals may look like a lot, but its not. Split that number in half because you have 2 healers. And I m just a casual with standard gear. Real raiders may heal the entire group with even lesser heals.


In conclusion: No, you dont really need to heal in Aglaia.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[...]In conclusion: No, you dont really need to heal in Aglaia.

Aglaia as a whole has a very pushover healing requirement. As far as unavoidable damage, either from raidwide or tankbusters, they all come out at very low frequency:

• Byregot
  
  00:10 - Ordeal of Thunder (Basic Raidwide)
  00:36 - Byregot's Ward (Basic Tankbuster cleave)
  03:13 - Ordeal of Thunder
  03:48 - Byregot's Ward
  ...With most auto attacks happening when the arena is transformed.
• Rhalgr
  
  00:12 - Lightning Reign (Basic Raidwide)
  01:07 - Broken World (Proximity)
  02:06 - Destructive Bolt (Basic Tankbuster)
  02:27 - Broken World + either real or fake proximities.
  03:52 - Destructive Bolt
  04:19 - Broken World
  04:26 - Lightning Storm (random, personal circle AoE)
  05:26 - Broken World
  All of these has very long cast time in which period Rhalgr stops auto attacking. He does not cast another Lightning Reign until about 6 minutes or longer into encounter, which is quite a rarity nowadays for his fight to last that long outside clownfiesta groups. Failing to do the knockback attacks properly results in instant deaths most of times (Yes, you can get get punched by Hand of Destroyer and somehow not falling off the arena).
• Azeyma
  
  00:12 - Warden's Prominence (Basic Raidwide)
  00:51 - Warden's Warmth (Basic Tankbuster AoE)
  02:07 - Warden's Warmth
  03:05 - Warden's Prominence
  03:32 - 1st Triangle knockback, minor damage
  03:36 - 2nd Triangle knockback, minor damage
  03:40 - 3rd Triangle knockback, minor damage
  04:21 - Sublime Sunset (Proximity)
  05:50 - Warden's Warmth
• Nald'Thal
  
  00:12 - As Above, So Below (Raidwide + Blue/Red Flame mechanic)
  00:35 - As Above, So Below
  01:01 - Heaven's Trial (Stack up) + Smelting (random personal cone)
  01:09 - Golden Tenet (Stack Up Tankbusters)
  01:20 - As Above, So Below
  01:47 - As Above, So Below
  04:03 - Fortune's Flux (Boss jumping around for pointblank or knockbacks with minor damage)
  04:46 - Fortune's Flux
  05:42 - Magmatic Spell (Add's stack up marker)
  06:48 - Tipped Scales (Ultimate Raidwide)
  07:07 - As Above, So Below
  07:33 - Stygian Tenet (Personal Tankbusters)
  07:43 - As Above, So Below
  08:08 - Hell's Trial (Basic Raidwide)
  If you're (un)lucky, Red "As Above, So Below" usually comes with additional damage from a line up marker.

Nald'Thal is a bit of an outlier amongst the 4, but nothing like pressing 1 or 2 more buttons from a healer's arsenal & it would be enough to go back to 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 again. This is one of the reason why day 1-3 of Alliance Raids are the most fun period for green icons.

[Mapleine]

Aglaia as a whole has a very pushover healing requirement. As far as unavoidable damage, either from raidwide or tankbusters, they all come out at very low frequency.

I've largely quit healing, but I ran it last week on WHM because I wanted the robe for a hopeful future in which the role actually exists.

No healing was required that wasn't met by DPS weave Assize and Lily dumping. Actually, that's an exaggeration, I use more than 50% of my lilies to fuel Misery during movement, there's no way this content requires even a single heal every twenty seconds.

What I did do was spend 98% of the time spamming Glare and refreshing Dia.

As someone who has played healers in a litany of major and minor MMOs since EQ: This game currently has some of the worst healer gameplay of any MMO I've ever played, FFXI's WHM absolutely dunks on the sad specimen in XIV.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I've largely quit healing, but I ran it last week on WHM because I wanted the robe for a hopeful future in which the role actually exists.

No healing was required that wasn't met by DPS weave Assize and Lily dumping. Actually, that's an exaggeration, I use more than 50% of my lilies to fuel Misery during movement, there's no way this content requires even a single heal every twenty seconds.

What I did do was spend 98% of the time spamming Glare and refreshing Dia.

As someone who has played healers in a litany of major and minor MMOs since EQ: This game currently has some of the worst healer gameplay of any MMO I've ever played, FFXI's WHM absolutely dunks on the sad specimen in XIV.

I remember having all of like 32 healing magic skill on WHM when I lvled it to 75 lol. I did however have capped club skill, enhancing magic, enfeebling magic, and holy magic... lol