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    MintnHoney's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Or getting rid of the hunchback.
    You know, I'm probably in the minority for this, but I actually kinda like the hunchback. I think it adds a little extra something, a little crudeness that brings out the beasty-side of the Hrothgar.
    Then again, I'm a fan of people being of a variety in general, which is why I love the idea of PSO2:NGS, and the ability to change anything from a character's idle stance to tongue shape. So a small thing like the hunchback just feels like good flavor, for me.

    That said, yeah: mods offer a lot for Hrothgar that Squeen probably never will. It's a shame, too, because there's so much potential there.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    You know, I'm probably in the minority for this, but I actually kinda like the hunchback. I think it adds a little extra something, a little crudeness that brings out the beasty-side of the Hrothgar.
    Then again, I'm a fan of people being of a variety in general, which is why I love the idea of PSO2:NGS, and the ability to change anything from a character's idle stance to tongue shape. So a small thing like the hunchback just feels like good flavor, for me.

    That said, yeah: mods offer a lot for Hrothgar that Squeen probably never will. It's a shame, too, because there's so much potential there.
    Here's the thing. You're free to like the hunchback. I look at GW2 and I LIKE IT that the Charr have the hunchback, it feels organic.

    The problem with FF14's hunchback though? It doesn't look organic. It doesn't feel natural in any way. It looks like I'm struggling to take a dump right there and then. And that's the problem. In their attempt to make the race look "animalistic", they're applying stuff that doesn't fit on Roegadyn. And we do very much have play-do roe bodies. So it comes off as really poorly made.

    If we are to have a hunchback, at least make sure it fits. Make sure the race actually feels animalistic as clearly it's intended to. And not like I need imodium.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 06-04-2022 at 04:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Here's the thing. You're free to like the hunchback. I look at GW2 and I LIKE IT that the Charr have the hunchback, it feels organic.

    The problem with FF14's hunchback though? It doesn't look organic. It doesn't feel natural in any way. It looks like I'm struggling to take a dump right there and then. And that's the problem. In their attempt to make the race look "animalistic", they're applying stuff that doesn't fit on Roegadyn. And we do very much have play-do roe bodies. So it comes off as really poorly made.

    If we are to have a hunchback, at least make sure it fits. Make sure the race actually feels animalistic as clearly it's intended to. And not like I need imodium.
    Hrothgar can stand straight but can't run without having a hunchback is just looking bad.

    Charr from gw2 looks awful in almost all armors... but dear lord they got such amazing animation that you Don't care about this issue.

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    Yeah, the thing with Charr is that their running animation is on all fours. That's why the hunch works. Because they lean down to run on all fours. But hrothgar don't do that.
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    Say it with me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Modders care more about Viera, Hrothgar, Highlander and Roegadyn than the devs do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    Yeah, the thing with Charr is that their running animation is on all fours. That's why the hunch works. Because they lean down to run on all fours. But hrothgar don't do that.
    It would work if their emotes worked more with the hunchback. Like if the /doze emote in a bed was them curling up somewhat to sleep. Something that makes sense with the hunchback. But nothing really does.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It would work if their emotes worked more with the hunchback. Like if the /doze emote in a bed was them curling up somewhat to sleep. Something that makes sense with the hunchback. But nothing really does.
    It's what I said. Apart from our idle animation, so many other animations are recycled from Roegadyn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrisar View Post
    Hrothgar can stand straight but can't run without having a hunchback is just looking bad.

    Charr from gw2 looks awful in almost all armors... but dear lord they got such amazing animation that you Don't care about this issue.

    Off topic, but I will die on the hill that if emet-selch/solus had a fursona, bangar would be it exactly.
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    ~sigh~

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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Off topic, but I will die on the hill that if emet-selch/solus had a fursona, bangar would be it exactly.
    Do not insult Emet-Selch by comparing him to Bangar. Bangar is more of an Ilberd or Varis. Late IBS Ryland is closer to Emet-Selch, IMO.
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    Last edited by RyuDragnier; 06-05-2022 at 08:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Here's the thing. You're free to like the hunchback. I look at GW2 and I LIKE IT that the Charr have the hunchback, it feels organic.

    The problem with FF14's hunchback though? It doesn't look organic. It doesn't feel natural in any way. It looks like I'm struggling to take a dump right there and then. And that's the problem. In their attempt to make the race look "animalistic", they're applying stuff that doesn't fit on Roegadyn. And we do very much have play-do roe bodies. So it comes off as really poorly made.

    If we are to have a hunchback, at least make sure it fits. Make sure the race actually feels animalistic as clearly it's intended to. And not like I need imodium.
    I actually agree. Normally I don't mind hunches (played Tauren, Worgen, Orc and Charr) but Hroth hunch is....weird. Like, rather than the spine bending forward, it just looks like their neck is twisted to look downwards in what's otherwise a normal straight spine. It's specially noticeable when moving - unless you have Runar hair or some hood to cover it up, it looks like someone karate chopped you on the nape and left a dent lol

    Also, regarding different body types instead of cookie cut models, I saw on twitter someone with a mod that gave Hroths a belly, or well, at least lack of abs, and it was so cute to see a tubby cat dad lol
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    Last edited by Allegor; 06-05-2022 at 08:25 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    You know, I'm probably in the minority for this, but I actually kinda like the hunchback.
    You are not alone, I like it...
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