Why do casuals act as if it's the end of the world when suggesting?

[Rilifane]

You say this, but the queues for these alliance raids takes absolutely forever outside of CT. Are you saying people don't queue for these raids because they are too slow and too easy?

CT is part of the MSQ and the default way to unlock alli raid roulette which gives a good chunk of exp and tomes.
Naturally way more people are only eligible for CT but will regularly do alli raid roulette on sub 90 classes, thus locking the group they land in to CT. Aglaia offers a coin and one item once per week and while glam farmers are not exactly uncommon in Aglaia the pool of players is far, far smaller than for CT.
It's a matter of simple logic and has nothing to with whether Aglaia is difficult or not.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

???

None of this happens on crystal. Are you sure? You play on Primal, the hardcore raiding server.

Yep I promise. I have no reason to lie.

Its not ALWAYS like this, some runs are fast smooth and ez but its disastrous often enough to prove that we really are at the max already for content difficulty without losing a significant amount of people.

[Kazelus]

In from the cold's problem is that it was not completely clear even with context clues how to clear it without using a guide first. Unless you found the downed mech or the fuel first before trying to find the linear path out you were likely to get murdered by the machina near the exit without understanding what you were supposed to do to get past them.

I don't understand the complaint about it, nobody in my friend circle had trouble doing this quest first try without a guide. You have plenty of time to do so, depending on your setup, (screen width, distance from it, ps4/PC graphics) it may be harder to do it easily cause you won't see the direction the ennemy are facing.
I've done it first try, I was stressed as fuck cause I was really involved in the story and I wanted to go as fast as possible to save my scions friends from Zenos. I've headed in the wrong direction at the start, I lose a lot of times fighting monsters in that way, I found the fuel first but couldn't take it. I had to get back, I found the machine that needed fuel and had to travel all the ways back to take the fuel. And I finished it first try and I had time to spare at the end. All the informations you need are said in the quest. It's clearly a skill check like Xaruko said.

Yep I promise. I have no reason to lie.

Its not ALWAYS like this, some runs are fast smooth and ez but its disastrous often enough to prove that we really are at the max already for content difficulty without losing a significant amount of people.

You said I seems to be reasonable so I will apply the same to you. But you really think we will lose people just because they can't do a content on the first go ? I can't believe people expect to finish every content on first try without actually trying to do things correctly... Cause if there is a wipe, it means something haven't been done correctly...
The only wipe I get nowaday on CT are on the Atomos in labyrinth because A pulled directly or eventually an ancient flare but for it, it's 50/50 either people freak out when it's killable before the end of the cast or they greed when it's not...
I don't like wiping, especially on thing that souldn't make us wipe( I look at out P3S "black flames"), but a game I can rush on one try without dying ever... I'm not gonna finish it, if it's for only facerolls the story, I don't the point in playing, let's see the cinematics on youtube, it will be faster... (And cheaper...)

[LeonKeyh]

???

None of this happens on crystal. Are you sure? You play on Primal, the hardcore raiding server.

Doesn't happen on Aether either. Only wipes that I've seen are whenever half of the DPS greeds Phlegethon and the other half gets scared and doesn't commit. Could be the time that they play.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Doesn't happen on Aether either. Only wipes that I've seen are whenever half of the DPS greeds Phlegethon and the other half gets scared and doesn't commit. Could be the time that they play.

It's fair to say I usually play late at night and often without any pre-made group members. Its nothing to get randoms late at night who seem to always comment about their own inebriation level, so I am willing to admit time of day could certainly play a role.

[Tehmon]

CT is part of the MSQ and the default way to unlock alli raid roulette which gives a good chunk of exp and tomes.
Naturally way more people are only eligible for CT but will regularly do alli raid roulette on sub 90 classes, thus locking the group they land in to CT. Aglaia offers a coin and one item once per week and while glam farmers are not exactly uncommon in Aglaia the pool of players is far, far smaller than for CT.
It's a matter of simple logic and has nothing to with whether Aglaia is difficult or not.

Aglaia is actually very active and it doesn't take long to find players, I'm moreso talking about the HW-SB-ShB alliance raids, which took me forever to queue for. Furthermore there were several times where people canceled their queue, I assume because it wasn't CT they were getting in their roulette.

Either way, if there is a considerable amount of people seeking harder than casual content, you'd think they have the all alliance raids unlocked, because that is the closest to '' midcore '' content we have imo. But for whatever reason people aren't unlocking them actively, or... not wanting to play them?

[Miracle_Diva]

They don't have to change everything to be somewhat harder, but more difficult daily content would be really appreciated.

I fell asleep while doing Aglaia this week because it was boring.

Either way, if there is a considerable amount of people seeking harder than casual content, you'd think they have the all alliance raids unlocked, because that is the closest to '' midcore '' content we have imo. But for whatever reason people aren't unlocking them actively, or... not wanting to play them?

I would love me some level 60 alliance raids instead of never ending CT roulette. But I haven't seen one in months.

[Caitlyn]

Im sorry, but I witness proof that goes against everything you have just said on a daily basis. Wipes in 4 person content, wipes to ancient flares, wipes to curtain calls, wipes galore in Neir raids etc. And no its not always my fault, and in fact rarely is but I can hear someone already saying its because im in the group haha.

Get Titania with a couple new people? Plan on being there until the end of the clock. Dun Scaith first boss? People leave, wipe, etc. Maybe your data center is just that much hardcore and thats fine. Oh and Diablos wipes are super common and the thunder god and the three sisters in the tower of babel. I keep editing and thinking of more each time that are often disasters so I will just stop.

My data center is beyond of being hardcore. I dont say anything to make the content hard as hell. Just shorter and more engaging. Aglaia for example is a raid where you dont need to heal for the most part. It would be enough to have only one heal here.
There is no real healing challenge. As a sage, you just need to do damage on a single target. And that it not really excited. Its like hitting a SSS dummy but for a longer time.

You say this, but the queues for these alliance raids takes absolutely forever outside of CT. Are you saying people don't queue for these raids because they are too slow and too easy?

People go into alliance raids just because of the EXP. And since CT is extremely short, people will prefer CT over any other raid. And you can still wipe in CT.
I would prefer CT over Nier or Rabanstre too. Not because Nier is harder or something. Its just faster. I got enough runs in Nier where people doing so less damage, that we killed the 2nd boss after 30mins. No one was dead or wiped the raid.
If you dont want to make 24 man raids harder, fine. But then make it shorter.


Let me compare Aglaia with CT.

CT got trash. I hate trash.
But you have some kind of big healing (bone dragon).
You have to split into your groups (atomos).
You have tank swaps (thanatos?).
You have wipe mechanics (atomos, behemoth and the last boss).
The healer glamour is nice.
15-20 mins and you re done.

Aglaia got trash too.
No real big healing there.
No split up into groups.
No tank swaps.
Only one real wipe mechanic at the very end (balance).
The healer glamour is nice.
25-35 mins for the most part.


If someone wipes for Flare in CT, its still fun. Its just a meme and makes everyone laugh.
But if someone wipes on balance in Aglaia I would ragequit immediately. The fight just takes so long and is so boring. And you have to do it all over again, just because someone didnt stand on the right side.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

They don't have to change everything to be somewhat harder, but more difficult daily content would be really appreciated.

I fell asleep while doing Aglaia this week because it was boring.

I would love me some level 60 alliance raids instead of never ending CT roulette. But I haven't seen one in months.

On Primal I dont get anything from CT very often anymore. IDK if people cant or wont queue naked anymore but getting the others a LOT more.

[Rilifane]

Aglaia is actually very active and it doesn't take long to find players, I'm moreso talking about the HW-SB-ShB alliance raids, which took me forever to queue for. Furthermore there were several times where people canceled their queue, I assume because it wasn't CT they were getting in their roulette.

Either way, if there is a considerable amount of people seeking harder than casual content, you'd think they have the all alliance raids unlocked, because that is the closest to '' midcore '' content we have imo. But for whatever reason people aren't unlocking them actively, or... not wanting to play them?

The same rule still applies to HW/ SB/ ShB alli raids.
CT is mandatory so even the smallest amount of the playerbase not unlocking HW/ SB/ ShB already reduces the pool of players eligible for it. CT is available at 50 while the other alli raids are 60/70/80 further reducing the pool of players by a signifcant amount the higher up you go.
A single person sub 60 is enough to lock 23 other people into CT and it doesn't matter if 23 other people could also get other alli raids in their roulette and roulette is still the biggest reason to do alli raids, that has nothing to do with difficulty.

I know you're trying really hard to argue that nobody needs more midcore content because the alli raid queue times clearly prove that it's not wanted with that really, really subtle "or... not wanting to play them?" but use some logic.
I have all alli raids unlocked and I rarely get anything other than CT because I always have a few people that are sub 60. I'd love to see Ivalice and Nier more often alas the playerpool for them is simply a lot smaller by nature.