The Ancients still deserved better, after everything

[anhaato]

7) Regardless of Venat's reasoning, how were 12 Ancients able to create a second primal that was more powerful than one created using the aether of 1/2 of the population?

8) Why didn't either Emet-Selch or Hythlodaeus (with their restored memories) condemn us for the destruction of the Ancients?

You're so close to understanding the problem. So close yet so far.

I hit post limit for the day so I'll just add it in here.

7 and 8 are both explained by accepting that Venat was a Mary Sue. They used a fraction of the power to summon Hydaelyn, and yet she was strong enough to defeat Zodiark. Because reasons. Then when Emet comes back, one of the 3 who were tortured by her actions the MOST, after he regained his memories and was able to see what she actually did to his world... he's just like "aw man ya got me!" Just completely forgives her.

I'll tell you what the exact problem is.

It's bad writing.

[DPZ2]

You're so close to understanding the problem. So close yet so far.

State the exact problem if you know it. I've read any number of opinions in this thread, each driven by a different head canon. Your attempt at a response was as helpful as telling me to go watch "Moriarty the Patriot" again.

As I said earlier "Rinse, repeat. Again and again and again, through an unending set of parallel universes, including one where Meteion is never created, and the Ancients happily live to the conclusion of their civilization. Our story is not that story."

[BubblyBoar]

You're so close to understanding the problem. So close yet so far.

I hit post limit for the day so I'll just add it in here.

7 and 8 are both explained by accepting that Venat was a Mary Sue. They used a fraction of the power to summon Hydaelyn, and yet she was strong enough to defeat Zodiark. Because reasons. Then when Emet comes back, one of the 3 who were tortured by her actions the MOST, after he regained his memories and was able to see what she actually did to his world... he's just like "aw man ya got me!" Just completely forgives her.

I'll tell you what the exact problem is.

It's bad writing.

I think you are misremembering something. Venat, even as a primal, WAS weaker than Zodiark. Never is it implied that she was stronger than him, ever, She, however, did defeat him because she became a primal specifically designed to do so. Not a primal that was stronger than Zodiark, but a primal designed to sunder him. She defeated Zodiark not because she was stronger than him, but because she essentially cheated in what was assumed a straight fight. It's like if a bear was fighting a human. The bear would totally win that fight. The bear is stronger than the human. But the human brought bear stopping traps and tools. The human didn't win because they are stronger than a bear. The human won by specifically debilitating the bear.