I'd like to suggest speeding up REPEAT, Legacy Relics, and also adding BLU Relics

[TaleraRistain]

I disagree, old relics are simply cosmetic and have zero gameplay impact and hence completely optional. The difficulty of acquisition has already been nerfed multiple times and if we just make it so easy, every Tom, Dick and Harry would be able to get one with zero effort and it would devalue the time and effort which other players have committed to get theirs before.

If the difficulty being nerfed hasn't already devalued that time, then further streamlining isn't going to magically make that happen. Plus we have to get away from this whole idea that someone having an easier time later is devaluing the work someone put in. Someone getting it easier isn't going back in time and erasing all the time someone else spent on something. They simply don't have to follow the same steps. I don't begrudge anyone having an easier time with things now than I did in the past when these things were current. That time I put in wasn't wiped away and it still means something to me. The only reason to be concerned about others having what you have is you're tying some false sense of superiority to acquiring it.

[LeonKeyh]

If the difficulty being nerfed hasn't already devalued that time, then further streamlining isn't going to magically make that happen. Plus we have to get away from this whole idea that someone having an easier time later is devaluing the work someone put in. Someone getting it easier isn't going back in time and erasing all the time someone else spent on something. They simply don't have to follow the same steps. I don't begrudge anyone having an easier time with things now than I did in the past when these things were current. That time I put in wasn't wiped away and it still means something to me. The only reason to be concerned about others having what you have is you're tying some false sense of superiority to acquiring it.

Agreed. In an MMO, cosmetic based items are like a new car; Their value (popularity) tanks very quickly as time goes by. The more people that have a cosmetic item of some sort, the less value it has, but if we're talking about cosmetic items from 4 expansions ago, that value has tanked a long time ago. Nobody is impressed seeing a relic from ARR right now. Hell, not many people are impressed with seeing the ShB relics anymore.


They're partially right, the value of the cosmetic is based on how many people have it, but there gets to the point where enough people have it that it's just like anything else, and most (if not all) relics have hit that point. Really, the Ultimate weapons are the only _fairly_ evergreen impressive cosmetic items (ignoring cash shop and items that were available for a limited time). Anything outside of those are less of a "show off" and more personal taste.