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    Player
    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    This, tbh. I *quit* at the book stage because it was that damn frustrating. Streamline the books, let us buy them all at once, and not for 100 poe a piece.
    There's an easy way to streamline them as well. Don't make the books "everything all at once". Fates, mobs, dungeons all in one book

    Have a set of Mob books to work through, Dungeon books to work through, FATE books to work through.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    The difficulty of acquisition has already been nerfed multiple times and if we just make it so easy, every Tom, Dick and Harry would be able to get one with zero effort and it would devalue the time and effort which other players have committed to get theirs before.
    Honestly. Does anyone really care about how long OTHER PEOPLE spent doing their own progress? I would guess No. If you care about nothing more than "how long you spent" on content years ago vs people doing it today, that says something about you.

    "We're going to keep doing this specific thing as janky as possible, because that's the way it's always been done" is a terrible reason to keep doing things that way.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 05-28-2022 at 12:52 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Kugane (No that red crayon is totally legitimate) >.>
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    While not really a legacy or old relic weapon yet...

    Maybe have the Fates and CE's in Bozjan southern front drop those memories for that really early step of the bozjan relic quest line where you need 15 of 3 different types drop 100% of the time in the Bozjan southern front? That really seems like the most time consuming step of the entire thing for making additional weapons as you either sit in bozjan southern front hoping RNG gives them to you, or you run around on 3 different full size and much larger maps doing 15 fates each on them.
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    i have made 6 arr relics and on my 7th now i would agree that the book phase needs to be toned down a bit
    and im not talking about stripping away the content of the book
    all im suggesting is to be able to buy all the books at once its almost same amount of work it just cuts down some of the double ups

    Blue relic would be cool i would love for Blu to be used in Eureka aswell
    also buff hydatos crystal drop thanks
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    Last edited by Duskane; 10-16-2021 at 02:49 PM.

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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    BLU will never enter a place like bozja or eureka. They would be ridiculously OP. Things are bad enough with people taking down those FATEs in a matter of seconds.
    They will also never get a relic. Their normal weapons don't even have stats, just slots.

    All I want for BLU is more cane graphics.
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    Terin's Avatar
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    Jared Kane
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Honestly, I still think both of these ideas are great; speeding up repeat Relics, and giving Blue Mage's their own Relics to pursue. There are so few "Canes" in the game anyway, it SHOULD be relatively easy to come up with ideas. They don't even need to be particularly cool or anything; just new designs.
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    My sister, her fiance and myself just completed a Zeta prior to EW's launch and (as someone who made a few Zetas back when they were current content) here's what I would change:

    - Atmas should drop instantly.
    - Reduce price of Animus books from 200 to 100 each and let us buy as many as we can at a time.
    - Reduce the amount of books required to complete the step.
    - Eliminate required FATEs from them and just let us complete whatever three FATEs we want per book.
    - Make Leves from the books not require an allowance. Seriously, I was dry on allowances (Coffee Biscuits) and had to wait 12 hrs to make any progress for about 3 books.
    - Remove chance for materia melds with Alexandrite to fail.
    - Let us infuse any materia we want as long as we have 75 of it.
    - Every single activity should drop max light for both light farming steps.

    Many of these steps were made to let us make progress towards specific stats for our weapon and customize it. All of that is useless nowadays. It shouldn't be this hard to get an old glam.
    These weapons are old. I kinda wanna make the WHM staff, but... in its current form I don't really wanna touch another Zeta for some time, and I think that's sad, because they're beautiful weapons that are kindda just forgotten.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 12-27-2021 at 10:52 PM.

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    Terin's Avatar
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    Jared Kane
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Yeah, I mean it's one thing to put in the work ONCE, but with subsequent weapons, it should remove at least SOME of the tedium. The Books really are the worst part, but also the sheer *quantity* of materia needed is pretty insane. It dries up a pretty small market VERY quickly.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    The materia step sucks almost as much as the books simply for the lack of readily available low level materia.
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    What I want is customizable weapons for every job that let you pick already existing particle effects. That way every single job can have their own customizable weapon combination.
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    TristanX's Avatar
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    Rhythalia Everlight
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Leveled to 5 for Eureka and Bozja. Stopped doing it. Too grindy.

    I'm more into power level than looks.
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