Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
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Anyone who has bothered to take a proper look at the DPS subforum since 6.1's launch will actually know what the general posting environment has been like, so it really requires no explanation from either of us. Showing up 10 hours later and saying 'Oh, well only half of the threads are about Kaiten at this current instant' doesn't change or excuse anything. It is what it is.

I'm sure that you're no doubt referring to that SAM thread where someone invited all jobs to comment about broader problems in job design direction, but then SAM players teamed up to hurl abuse at healers because they apparently 'ought to stay in the healer subforum'. As far as I can tell, your group just wants people to upvote your demand threads, but has no genuine interest in actually supporting anyone else's needs.

I think that most people have made an effort to be sympathetic and supportive initially, but when you've collectively made an nuisance of yourselves for so long, everyone is just tired of the constant brigading. You're just damaging your own reputation with the broader community at this point, and it hurts your case rather than helps it. You'd make so much more headway by simply having a civil discussion and making structured feedback to the dev team in a single megathread. It's been done many times before.

I do want to see the ToS enforced, though, because it's next to impossible to have a discussion on a forum when people simply resort to hurling abusive language when they run out of arguments. I don't care what the end result is, and it doesn't matter if you're friendly or not, but there are some basic standards of courtesy if you're to have a conversation with another human being.