[Petition] Have Naoki Yoshida Play Healer and take off the DPS Gloves for a year.

[kaynide]

I mean, sure, if you're only doing notes on GCDs and vs 1 target in boss raids/endgame, sure. But, most of my use is in dungeons/fates where AoE and mobility is much more important and should factor in. WHM's AoE is aweful compared to SGE.

So, while they SHOULD be the same numbers in general, the way that damage happens is quite different. The statement that it is identical to other healers I stand by being incorrect, and not a good way to describe the job to someone looking to play it. It's just simply not "same as whm".

The chart doesn't take into account Sage's mobility, nor the fact that most of Sage's abilities are instant cast, which offers a very different play experience.

And again, using cast time and recast times, you can get a 6-action AoE burst in the same amount of time you could 3 holy casts. And be running like an idiot while doing it.

[Teno]

Sage doesn't have the mobility of a bard or dancer, no way in hell lol, or at least not in the FFXIV I play. It even feels more restrictive since you have to build addersting during downtime otherwise you lose big dps, so it's really not the same at all. In fact, WHM feels more mobile since the recent Misery change and it being dps "neutral".

Plus, the dash is on a super long CD that doesn't even get full uptime because it doesn't work like that. And mobility is a non issue in dungeons and fates since you could lose half your GCDs moving around and it wouldn't matter.

Now, if Toxikon was to be oGCD and you could spam diagnosis on the move that'd be something else.

[WaxSw]

I mean, sure, if you're only doing notes on GCDs and vs 1 target in boss raids/endgame, sure. But, most of my use is in dungeons/fates where AoE and mobility is much more important and should factor in. WHM's AoE is aweful compared to SGE.

So, while they SHOULD be the same numbers in general, the way that damage happens is quite different. The statement that it is identical to other healers I stand by being incorrect, and not a good way to describe the job to someone looking to play it. It's just simply not "same as whm".

The chart doesn't take into account Sage's mobility, nor the fact that most of Sage's abilities are instant cast, which offers a very different play experience.

And again, using cast time and recast times, you can get a 6-action AoE burst in the same amount of time you could 3 holy casts. And be running like an idiot while doing it.

Sage AoE tools: Standard nuke AoE, 45s CD dps gain, damage ability tied to damage that your best way to farm it is in downtime, Pneuma
Whm AoE tools: Standard nuke AoE, 45s CD dps gain, damage ability tied to damage that your best way to farm it is in downtime

Aside Pneuma they have the exact same number of tools and considering its a 2m cd it doesnt change the rotation significantly enough to create a difference, the mobility argument must be a joke, no one gives a f... about mobility in dungeons cause packs once assembled dont move and bosses are so braindead that the slidecasting from the main nuke is far more than enough and the whole:

using cast time and recast times, you can get a 6-action AoE burst in the same amount of time you could 3 holy casts.

Show you have no idea what you're talking about, Holy and any of the AoE tools of Sage are standard cooldowns and as such both can fit the exact same number of GCDs in burst phase, in fact if anything Whm would be miles more bursty by virtue of using Missery->Assize->Holy->Holy which is far more potency in a 3GCD span of time than Sage can get as it lacks any damaging oGCD.

Now go and compare those "differences" to the caster dps for example and know what real differentiation truly is.