Tale of Emet [FF14 x Nier Reincarnation event story]

[Slatersev]

It doesn’t matter if it’s a joke or whatever, with your absurdities i never know. Also, how funny you bring up undoing it involves murdering innocent people. You mean like how undoing the 8UC timeline involved murdering trillions of innocent people? Or how Minfilia on the First murdered innocent children by forcing them to fight against sin eaters? Seems like you agree with the “rules for thee but not for me” precedence.

I’ve never simplified motivations with Venat. I’ve stated her entire viewpoint time and time again, i just find it incredibly flawed and stupid, and apparently many people do as well with how much the devs had to bend over backwards for her in a QnA and answer questions and explicitly stated “she isn’t a bad guy.” I’m just confused on where the relevance is with bringing her up though. It seems to me whenever you’re losing an argument you either run away and stay quiet or move goalposts.

Minfillia isnt a gotcha when she was literally the first person who first brought up the morality of her actions. Its why she purposely lets herself die for good. She quite literally says it wasn't fair and she doesn't deserve to live anymore. So if you want to compare it to Ascians still trying to staple themselves back together, thats fine. Shit she would agree with you. But she also already acknowledged any justifications she had doesnt make it right and that would still apply to the Ascians as well. Which is back to the point.

Getting huffy at the idea that murder of innocent people being depicted as not ideal is just silly. Especially when the story did already already took that stance with Minfillia's actions and had her die for it. Why would it be any different for the Ascians? Why does there sympathetic backstory mean bad things they do now shouldn't or can't be depicted as bad?

Because you like them more? Shit I like them more, Minfillia is boring as fuck, the best thing she ever did was make room for Ryne. But getting more enjoyment out of the Ascians doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't be depicted as doing something seen by characters in the story as bad.

I don't want the last Ascians to die, I hope they get to play a part in the story going forward. I just find the idea that they can't be depicted as villainous because they have or had sympathetic goals or motivations to be widely subjective and silly.