Quote Originally Posted by Slatersev View Post
If you can't tell "growing taller" was a joke, maybe I should have been more blunt. Maybe, "Murdering people in the hopes that stapling there soul back on will give me a bigger dick" (Absurdity aside, there literally nothing that says it couldn't be canon that one of the unseen Ascians has that as his major motivation)

Regardless, trying to undo it involves murdering innocent people. Claiming that can't or shouldn't be portrayed negatively is your own wildly subjective bias. And its especially funny to here you claim others are trying to "simplify" motivations when thats literally all you do with Venat because you don't like her and that's your interpretation. Which is fine, opinions, but don't try to dress it up as something deeper or objective.

And trying to undo it without the Unsundered or Zodiark is even less justified than it was before. Now the Ascians left don't even fully remember what the world they lost was like. And if the Unsundered/Hyth are reborn on the Source there going to have there own new lives they probably wouldn't be thrilled with people claiming to be there allies trying to severely damage and kill people in there world
It doesn’t matter if it’s a joke or whatever, with your absurdities i never know. Also, how funny you bring up undoing it involves murdering innocent people. You mean like how undoing the 8UC timeline involved murdering trillions of innocent people? Or how Minfilia on the First murdered innocent children by forcing them to fight against sin eaters? Seems like you agree with the “rules for thee but not for me” precedence.

I’ve never simplified motivations with Venat. I’ve stated her entire viewpoint time and time again, i just find it incredibly flawed and stupid, and apparently many people do as well with how much the devs had to bend over backwards for her in a QnA and answer questions and explicitly stated “she isn’t a bad guy.” I’m just confused on where the relevance is with bringing her up though. It seems to me whenever you’re losing an argument you either run away and stay quiet or move goalposts.