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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Honestly the Final Days as never going to be anything more than a wet fart because the writers are painfully averse to consequence. A doomsday level event with a writing team that refuses to kill off anyone besides side nps nobody cares about is never going to have the weight it needs. When characters die just come back almost every time (even when they should logically be dead), there is zero tension to any drama revolving around death.

    Can you imagine the current writing team writing The Lion King? At the climax of the film it's revealed Mufasa is actually alive, turns out he survived his fall (without any explanation, he just got better) and has been in hiding in a cave for the 3 or however many years that followed and arrives to save the day. Also Scar somehow survives too and is teased in a capeshit-tier after-credits scene as coming back for the sequel, with the help of a new villain from out of nowhere.

    You may think this sounds outlandish but I fully believe this is how they would've handled that movie were they in charge of the script. Unironically.

    At the end of the day if you want to tell a story like they were trying to tell in EW you need to commit to consequence and to make me care you need someone that actually mattters to me to suffer consequences (generally that being death). But when are you are so averse to this and just want to revert to the status quo every time than this is doomed to fall flat. Especially when you are comitted to inserting humor at innappropriate times in such a way that kills tension. We go from killing Zodiark and realizing we just caused a doomsday-tier event to happen to only a few minutes later hanging out with cute bunnies who outright crack jokes about our impending doom.

    I think the writers would be more accustomed to writing light-hearted slice-of-life stories if I'm being completely honest. Serious, dark stories are clearly not for them and they should stop trying since they just refuse to commit to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    At the end of the day if you want to tell a story like they were trying to tell in EW you need to commit to consequence and to make me care you need someone that actually mattters to me to suffer consequences (generally that being death). But when are you are so averse to this and just want to revert to the status quo every time than this is doomed to fall flat.
    This brings up an interesting question. I know people have very wide ranges of opinions on the various characters we adventure with, but I'm curious which character this criteria could qualify for? For me that's Estinien, but for others they may be happy to see him leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    I think the writers would be more accustomed to writing light-hearted slice-of-life stories if I'm being completely honest. Serious, dark stories are clearly not for them and they should stop trying since they just refuse to commit to them.
    It's made all the weirder by the fact that both Ishikawa and Oda claim to like darker stories, so it may be a case of what they were allowed to write in the time they were given to write it.

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    Is it possible that the intention is that the sound was The Endsinger? I know it comes from within the planet, but magic? idk just a thought.
    I can't say for sure but I almost get the vibe that they're hoping people don't look too closely at it and just take it as a given that it's the same thing. There's possible explanations of things Endsinger might have perturbed, such as the mysterious elementals, or other things inside the star, but my feeling is they're just hoping people run with it and don't look too closely at how much sense it makes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    At the end of the day if you want to tell a story like they were trying to tell in EW you need to commit to consequence and to make me care you need someone that actually mattters to me to suffer consequences (generally that being death).
    I don't require death, although, given that the Scions have been through multiple wars and a universe ending threat the fact that nobody died except for people who were already dead was ridiculous. (Side rant: Thanks for bringing back fan favorites just to have to watch them die a second time and not be able to do a thing about it, that was great. -_-)

    Having said that, there are no consequences for the Scions at all. Thancred's inability to manipulate aether is a minor inconvenience. Y'shtola's 'blindness' essentially became a super power and Matoya commenting she was burning through her life force viewing the world that way has never been addressed since. Estinien and G'raha did have the more compelling arcs when they were relevant. Now, they both generally seem fine, no adverse side effects for Estinien having fused with the essence of a dragon (again, superpowers) or G'raha having barely made it through 3 apocalypses now. Does no one have PTSD at a minimum? All of the Scions should be experiencing some mental health issues or other psychological setbacks that could be compelling. Instead, we end the story with Thancred commenting about not even having a scar to brag about and Estinien joking that still won't stop him.

    I'd wager this is a large reason why people love the Ancient characters because they are endless tragedy despite being good people and your heart breaks for them. I think whoever coined the term "comfort characters" for the Scions had the right of it. They don't seem to serve a purpose of being anything more than that.
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