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    Archwizard Drake
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    You're much better off looking at
    It's really hard to take this type of feedback from you as genuine, given that you've admitted your bias towards changing as little as possible about the job.
    "You're much better off" reads as a lot of projecting your own desires and preferences onto others and dressing it up as fact.

    Now, I will agree that (on paper if not in practice) the devs are more likely to accept feedback that requires as little change as possible for the job, and there certainly are elements of the job that could be addressed with minor alterations, like Ryu said. We don't need to reinvent the wheel just to say that C&S and AD shouldn't be on a shared charge, at least as they are now.
    But if part of the argument is that the job has been watered down to the point of losing its own substantial identity and has significant overlap with another in the same role to the point of virtual copy-paste with superficial differences, they're going to continue getting the same feedback until something about its fundamental nature changes.

    Much like how consistent feedback for 7 years was that Living Dead was garbage: its nature didn't change, so the feedback didn't either.

    Now, that doesn't have to mean a ground-up rework... but it does mean something has to shift dramatically about the basic gameplay, which is an extremely fine line from fully reworking the job (even one that preserves the most popular elements), and heaven only knows where you draw that distinction.

    And in the vein of that Living Dead example, in practice, they're more receptive to the idea of a "unique" job nature as a guiding design principle than you might think, given that the "easy" route would have just been to remove the Doom timer and make it essentially Holmgang... and instead they made it even more complicated just to maintain distinction.
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    Last edited by Archwizard; 05-20-2022 at 05:28 PM.