What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[KizuyaKatogami]

Mitron wasn't pulling out suppressed memories. He was placing his own onto her soul. This is a very similar thing that Emet and other Ascians have been doing with the memory crystals. If Emet wanted to, he could have used the Azem crystal on us and it probably would have worked to effectively overwrite the WoL with Azem. Mitron was trying to pull away at Gaia her entire life as she mentions memory problems even in her childhood. He's basically a parasite to her. As for the WoL fighting for Gaia. She was a bit stuck by Mitron at the time. Once we get them detached she goes back to being herself. Again I ask why that is confusing. Gaia is NOT Loghrif. She is her own person that some other guy she has never met was trying to replace with a dead person. If Gaia chose to be Loghrif then that is her choice. But she did not choose to be Loghrif. She held onto who she was despite outside influence trying to force her into something else.

Ardbert was dead and unable to return to the aetherial sea. I would have loved for him to find peace and return but that didn't happen. For whatever unexplained reason (I think it was mommy crystal) he was stuck as a ghost. If he chose not to rejoin with us, then that would be fine. That's his choice. If we could get him out of us and let him pass on, I'd be fine with that. I didn't want him to rejoin with us because that effectively erases him and partially overwrites the WoL with bits of Ardbert. I don't know where his consciousness is and because he hasn't spoken up since the Seto scene I can only assume that his mind is merged with the WoL. That's not really a happy thing in my eyes either. But it's what happened. The WoL would have died without his intervention and he chose to intervene.

Gaia
If I'd found you sooner, then maybe...!
No, wait! Don't leave me!

Until we meet again, Artemis.

Hm? Whose name did I just...

This seems to be more than just implanting. He seems to be awakening them or rekindling her memories.This seems to be further solidified in Savage where him dying causes her to awaken loghrif and accept and merge. Also…not seeing how he’s a parasite. She even says herself she doesn’t care about her past, she doesn’t want to know about her past life her parents etc. So quite literally the only thing tying her down is some girl she’s only known a few months, that’s what i meant by pandering it’s just unrealistic imo.

[Xirean]

Gaia
If I'd found you sooner, then maybe...!
No, wait! Don't leave me!

Until we meet again, Artemis.

Hm? Whose name did I just...

This seems to be more than just implanting. He seems to be awakening them or rekindling her memories.This seems to be further solidified in Savage where him dying causes her to awaken loghrif and accept and merge. Also…not seeing how he’s a parasite. She even says herself she doesn’t care about her past, she doesn’t want to know about her past life her parents etc. So quite literally the only thing tying her down is some girl she’s only known a few months, that’s what i meant by pandering it’s just unrealistic imo.

She doesn't care about the past because she cares about the now. A mindset very much instilled in her from growing up in Eulmore. Loghrif is part of the past which she doesn't care about. Also you need to stop using things happening as savage as an argument. Savage is a what if scenario. The fight in particular comes from a vision we have of an elemental crystal. It has no bearing on Gaia. Also your quote is still very much in line with the implanting of memories which is already something that other Ascians have done in the story. Also EW clearly showed that when you die your soul is wiped clean. The most that you could retain is fleeting concepts. If there characters that remembered things in past lives and such a thing was commonplace, then I'd consider your argument. But it's just not something we see. Instead we see multiple characters that have had their Ancient memories awakened by an Ascian with a memory crystal.

[KizuyaKatogami]

She doesn't care about the past because she cares about the now. A mindset very much instilled in her from growing up in Eulmore. Loghrif is part of the past which she doesn't care about. Also you need to stop using things happening as savage as an argument. Savage is a what if scenario. The fight in particular comes from a vision we have of an elemental crystal. It has no bearing on Gaia. Also your quote is still very much in line with the implanting of memories which is already something that other Ascians have done in the story. Also EW clearly showed that when you die your soul is wiped clean. The most that you could retain is fleeting concepts. If there characters that remembered things in past lives and such a thing was commonplace, then I'd consider your argument. But it's just not something we see. Instead we see multiple characters that have had their Ancient memories awakened by an Ascian with a memory crystal.

Im not talking about her loghrif past though, im talking about her current life where she presumably has parents and she just...doesnt care about that? Also...i think you need to look again at how the savage quest for that tier is presented, especially that floor. It's very much implied to have some credence to it, im merely using it though as evidence towards the memories being rekindled not implanted. Emet selch "died" and his soul wasnt wiped clean, instead he actually got his memories back.Lets not forget...we also have Zenos with his memories of the final days as well that hes had since birth so...

[Xirean]

There's a reason I see him as a parasite to her.

Mitron then forcefully merges with Gaia to become Ascian Prime


Gaia within the Ascian Prime manages to make a message, the red ball, to communicate with WoL and Ryne.



Ascian Prime then proceeds to start showing several of Gaia's memories as crystals and crushing them. This is another big reason I see him as parasitic to her. He wants to delete her to have his dead lover back. It's sad and unfortunate what happened to them but that doesn't give him the right to hurt someone else for it.

Im not talking about her loghrif past though, im talking about her current life where she presumably has parents and she just...doesnt care about that? Also...i think you need to look again at how the savage quest for that tier is presented, especially that floor. It's very much implied to have some credence to it, im merely using it though as evidence towards the memories being rekindled not implanted. Emet selch "died" and his soul wasnt wiped clean, instead he actually got his memories back.Lets not forget...we also have Zenos with his memories of the final days as well that hes had since birth so...

Emet hadn't been reborn yet. His soul was still fading thus he calls himself and Hyth "half faded souls of the dead." Once his soul is reborn that new person won't remember Emet's life. In fact the guy from Sharlayan explains that magics blocking memories fade before the memories do. So it's really no surprise that Emet knows what's going on in that UT scene.