What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Rulakir]

It's one of those situations where it was simultaneously more than I expected, but also not enough.

First of all, my WoL would not be speaking fondly of Venat. I have noted before that Hydaelyn embodies everything the protagonists have consistently fought against and condemned. It was at least nice to see some form of nuance finally directed towards both her and the sundering.

Secondly, I do not understand how Ishikawa can be based enough to say she thought 80% of people would hate Hermes and then keep trying to push his character as having a point. The only reason Hermes doesn't get more hate than he does is because of Venat ending up being the more controversial figure. I don't understand how we went from rejoinings being "mass murder" to an extinction level event being some kind of 'first step' for mankind.

[RyuDragnier]

I get what they were saying with Omega's logic. Remember, this is a being from a civilization that was all about self-improvement through combat and conflict. Thus their mindset, programmed towards conflict, would see it as logical to create an enemy that must be overcome to self-improve.

[Lucida3b]

I wonder if the devs have a way to see how people answer? stupid thought though.

If i had to guess it would go, all, then emet in terms of chosen

[Xirean]

I would really love to know if there is a way to pull statistics on that choice. Granted it would be skewed considering you are required to do the Omega raid series to even see the quest giver in the first place.

[Rulakir]

I would really love to know if there is a way to pull statistics on that choice. Granted it would be skewed considering you are required to do the Omega raid series to even see the quest giver in the first place.

Wait, what? *sigh*

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Well, that's one less Emet vote they're going to get.

[Teraq]

Wait, what? *sigh*

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Well, that's one less Emet vote they're going to get.

Square Enix please release regional Data Center travel so we can all get Rulakir through all the raid content... A quite lackluster unsynced raid static.

[AziraSyuren]

I was right about the devs being no stranger to damage control, lmao

It just happened earlier than I expected and it was executed better than I thought it'd be.

[Teraq]

It was by and large not enough though, IMO. Omega should have called out Venat's horrifying act some more to restore whatever little grey morality can be salvaged from this plot.

News flash: Venat self-flagellating isn't grey morality when the plot – never mind the protagonists – is wildly gesturing and mouthing silently at me that she was unequivocally right and that her way was the only solution that existed at all. It is doubly amusing when people who defend her and claim the Sundering is morally grey then diligently refute any attempt at explaining why Ancients could have potentially stood a chance. Because, you know, that an alternative way for Ancients to endure and defeat Meteion might have existed would, in fact, make this whole stupid plot actually morally grey – no right or wrong. That would have been actually nuanced, and wow, we can't have that, can we? Nope. Let's just insist instead that Ancients were definitely hopeless and in the wrong, and for good measure, let's flanderize them into cultists who would have happily sacrificed everything on the planet that wasn't them to bring back what was unjustly and horrifically taken away from them (which is wrong. Forge Ahead™). Morally grey, everyone!

But of course, we simply didn't pay attention to the game. We didn't watch the cutscenes (I wish I hadn't lmao). As if we didn't get this dumb middle-school level plot and its shallow aesop. To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Endwalker and buddhism. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of forging ahead, to realise that it's not just some blanket inspirational statement – it says something deep about LIFE.

No, I'm sorry to disappoint but I did, in fact, grasp that future and suffering good, actually, and that past and perfection bad, because the game dropped a number of very heavy anvils on me, thank you for pointing it out. I just happen to think it sucked.

[Lucida3b]

Not really a fan of invoking buddhism or some varying asian religion to cover up bad writing, kinda starts to smack of orientalism or something after a point.

[Teraq]

Not really a fan of invoking buddhism or some varying asian religion to cover up bad writing, kinda starts to smack of orientalism or something after a point.

I mean, I'm sorry but if you have to bring up buddhist allegories for me, who had enjoyed the plot so far, to maybe not find the plot bad, and said plot wasn't supposed to be a philosophical essay on religion in the first place, then I'd say something went wrong either in the creative process or in the intent. I'm not exactly a literary critic. (Haters™ lurking: "WE COULD TELL, NOW WRITE AND PUBLISH A STORY SO YOU CAN EARN THE RIGHTS TO SAY SOMETHING BAD")