Do NOT bring Kaiten back

[Vencio]

I don’t know,

Third eye is just redundantly useless & needs to go as well

[Neoyoshi]

All my friends who play SAM primarily all pretty much echo the same sentiment; that they would like to see Kaiten come back/changes be reversed.

[Kolsykol]

Screw it just delete everything.

[ThorneDynasty]

Screw it just delete everything.

It did work great the last time.

[FrogBiscuit]

Just for crying out loud look at the repetitive posts that majority of these individuals are far resistant to go through the changes,

I beg to differ but SAM feels alright the way it is, no further logic needed & I applaud for going through with the change.


I do agree the job does need to be inprovise as every other job & this takes time through trial & error.

Please remain steady & thank you devs for going through this.

Thanks yet again for spending so much energy in making sure that the topic that SAM is in not in good condition front and center.

I appreciate the fact that you have taken it upon yourself to fight harder with more posts then even SAM players themselves to continuously push the topic to the top, not only in other threads, but even one you made yourself.

I do realize its comical that you are representing the very behavior you pretend to criticize and I admit don't really see the point or purpose...

But cheers to you for spending more energy on a topic you have very little little connection to, then the actual SAM players that are passionate about the issue themselves. Its impressive.


I'm sure if SE even visits these forums, they will see your posts of desperation and pleas and rather then consider the vast, overwhelming player outcry over the situation, they will undoubtedly crown you as the be all expert behind the SAM play style, and clearly because your subscription is by far the most important in SE's eyes and your snobbish and dismissive approach to the SAM community only indicate a unquestionable skill level, authoritative opinion, and superior social skills, giving further credit to your desperately conveyed opinion.

Right?


It would be more then fine (and I would encourage and even support) your personal opinion that the 6.1 changes were good. But that's not what you have been communicating here, are you?

You have spent more time/activity in the DPS forums desperately criticizing and trying to overshadow then multitude of SAM players then those actual SAM players that directly effected and connected to the topic at hand, not just provide your own opinion and/or reason why.

Your purpose here isn't to debate a subject, or even just give a perspective in good faith. You purpose here (100% obvious from your own silly posting history) is simply to troll, make a fool of yourself, and effectively keep the very topic you have been so outspoken against, front and center.

You continue to make your very own problem that you can't seem to stay quiet about. I've seen foolish trolls before... But you have achieved new, self unaware heights...



Thanks again for the topic bumps.... And heck, in this case, even starting a thread yourself about the topic you want people to stop making threads about.

It seems clear that the SAM 6.1 changes were for people like you... somehow you liking changes that make a class super simplified, boring and slow doesn't strike me as surprising...

[Ruminous]

I don’t know,

Third eye is just redundantly useless & needs to go as well

Literal proof your opinion is not worth even taking into account, barring your entire post history. Yes I rooted through it. Your takes are nothing but ill-informed or trolly thoughts with your reasoning being "i don't like it". You absolutely need to educate yourself on more than just "RP" content and you'll understand how abilities interact in the game with certain aspects of it. Then again I've sincerely doubted you've ever done anything harder that'd require you to actually know how to use the full kit.

But sure, let's listen to you and delete "redundant" abilities. What else can go, ikishoten? Senei? Guren? Shoha 1 and Shoha 2? Why not just make the class have no off global abilities or defensive abilities. Wait, that class already exists. It's called "monk", though unfortunately it has the "redundant" riddle of earth ability. If you don't like samurai because you constantly whine and complain or try to justify bad decisions, try another role. This game has PLENTY of them.

Thing is, you're an idiot. Not just on your opinions, you literally can't read the room and know how people feel. Hell you can't even offer a good reason as to WHY your "opinion" is even a good one. That is why you get labeled a troll, and I'll even join in and call you one. My advice, go watch Misshapenchair's video about class design and maybe you'll learn something. When you do, you can be welcomed in actual discussion and actually articulate your points. Until then, you're a troll, and everyone will make sure you and others know it. Enjoy your free bump.

[Vencio]

Think it’s getting old with the constant “troll” labeling don’t you think?

The thing is I have had express my thoughts on response to other posts & was met with utter hostility by simply disagreeing with having it back. Talk about civility no? : /

Also if it’s even that irritable why even bother with responding at all?

PS: Until then Kaiten’s not present, delight on as much as you want with endless SAM posts.

It is no longer present, deal with it. There will be another perhaps…two more months to wait what 6.2 may bring? Anyway dwell on the allusion of overflooding your expressions in such comical pleas.

Kaiten is no more at the moment =)

[xAFROx]

Think it’s getting old with the constant “troll” labeling don’t you think?

The thing is I have had express my thoughts on response to other posts & was met with utter hostility by simply disagreeing with having it back. Talk about civility no? : /

Also if it’s even that irritable why even bother with responding at all?

PS: Until then Kaiten’s not present, delight on as much as you want with endless SAM posts.

It is no longer present, deal with it. There will be another perhaps…two more months to wait what 6.2 may bring? Anyway dwell on the allusion of overflooding your expressions in such comical pleas.

Kaiten is no more at the moment =)

You'd receive less hostility from stating your opinions if your opinions didn't actively target people with differing views with what amounts to a 'stfu' or specifically calling us names. There are plenty of threads and posts that have remained civil. But most of everyone who like the changes or don't mind the changes are actively calling us out with names and labels as if we're a problem when all we're doing is responding as we interpreted by the devs back during their announcement.

If you want civility while having opposing positions, it requires acting with a level of respect towards one another.

I've let my anger get to me a few times in these threads, but I try to keep a level head so as not to come off like I'm entitled or am toxic, but we're all human.

[Ruminous]

Think it’s getting old with the constant “troll” labeling don’t you think?

The thing is I have had express my thoughts on response to other posts & was met with utter hostility by simply disagreeing with having it back. Talk about civility no? : /

Also if it’s even that irritable why even bother with responding at all?

PS: Until then Kaiten’s not present, delight on as much as you want with endless SAM posts.

It is no longer present, deal with it. There will be another perhaps…two more months to wait what 6.2 may bring? Anyway dwell on the allusion of overflooding your expressions in such comical pleas.

Kaiten is no more at the moment =)

Call a spade a spade, call a troll a troll. You're a troll, your behavior points to this and you've done nothing to change it. Don't even mention civility, because again, anyone can look at your post history and see you've done NOTHING to garner even a civil response. The only reason I do bother responding is so others know of your behavior and know you're not going to engage them in good faith, or even good points. To also spin your "why bother responding", then, why are you posting? Oh right, you're a troll.

I'm glad you're happy that other people not being able to have fun delights you so much, though. Because obviously a decent person would take pleasure in that...Oh wait, no. Sounds like something trolls do. So, go on troll. Keep trolling. Maybe someday you'll actually be taken seriously, but that is entirely on you.

[Shurrikhan]

I can smell the snoot from miles away...


There were skills they could have done away with. Kaiten was not one of them.

Third Eye should have been.

Really? Third Eye of all things? Not the useless Shoha I / II distinction? Not Namikiri failing to replace the Ikishoten button despite only be usable while the latter is on cooldown?