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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyd3l View Post
    I mean if no one cared would there even need to be a LGBTQ+ movement? It would be great if no one cared. But many people obviously do care, that's the problem.
    I think having the movement is fine. I just feel that separating yourself is counter to wanting to be treated like everyone else. That's why I opt to just treat people as people. The moment I see that label being tacked on I know it's time to nope out as those groups tend to want to be treated special which again, is counter to what they're fighting for imo.
    And before thats twisted I have zero issues with those people as people. Just feel they aren't doing themselves any favors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    People put too much importance on their gender identity and how it shapes their life when, in reality, noone really cares.
    The thing a lot of people don't realize is that you don't get to not make your sexuality and gender identity/expression a large part of who you are. It's one of the most flagrantly visible things about a person from the moment you realize you can develop a crush on someone. You have pretty much every societal expectation heaped upon you at once, and the only time it doesn't cause significant strain is if you're both cis and heterosexual. And the more strain you feel- the more mental bandwidth your identity takes up- the bigger a part of your personality becomes. It's like a muscle. A big, gay muscle.

    Not to mention that people alter how they treat you based on your identity whether they realize it or not. Societal expectations cannot be so easily dodged. The fact that anyone in this thread could ever feel weird when a queer person is visibly queer is proof of that.

    This applies even more strongly to things like race but I know in saying that I'll get a symphony of people who even more feverishly deny their implicit biases lmao

    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    I think having the movement is fine. I just feel that separating yourself is counter to wanting to be treated like everyone else. That's why I opt to just treat people as people. The moment I see that label being tacked on I know it's time to nope out as those groups tend to want to be treated special which again, is counter to what they're fighting for imo.
    And before thats twisted I have zero issues with those people as people. Just feel they aren't doing themselves any favors
    Sometimes queer people don't want to be treated "normally." They just don't want to be treated worse. The two are not the same.
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    Last edited by AziraSyuren; 05-18-2022 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AziraSyuren View Post
    The thing a lot of people don't realize is that you don't get to not make your sexuality and gender identity/expression a large part of who you are. It's one of the most flagrantly visible things about a person from the moment you realize you can develop a crush on someone. You have pretty much every societal expectation heaped upon you at once, and the only time it doesn't cause significant strain is if you're both cis and heterosexual. And the more strain you feel- the more mental bandwidth your identity takes up- the bigger a part of your personality becomes. It's like a muscle. A big, gay muscle.

    Not to mention that people alter how they treat you based on your identity whether they realize it or not. Societal expectations cannot be so easily dodged. The fact that anyone in this thread could ever feel weird when a queer person is visibly queer is proof of that.

    This applies even more strongly to things like race but I know in saying that I'll get a symphony of people who even more feverishly deny their implicit biases lmao



    Sometimes queer people don't want to be treated "normally." They just don't want to be treated worse. The two are not the same.
    Define worse
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    It's only annoying to me when you got the people shouting advertisements in chat constantly.

    I personally feel like it's a waste of time. If someone needs to be validated, more power to them. As for me personally, I'm here to play a video game, not care what someone identifies as or is attracted to.

    Be civil to me, and I'll be civil to you.
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