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  1. #271
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    Kirya Nordrain
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    Bots? Like what the 4k+ removed in last two weeks? No they definitely didn't do it. The numbers on Lodestone must be made up.

    Anyway... There's one thing between your anecdote and this situation that doesn't line up. SE has zero ways of knowing whether you use add-ons or not. Unless you're reported with a solid proof that it's indeed a thing. The rule and enforcement always worked if that was the case. And in this regard nothing changed. They don't hunt you down unless you're brought to their attention with the proof of your guilt

    EDIT: can't seem to make new posts... For clarification My first sentence was talking about this

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...84ae82cd3320e8
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    Last edited by Jaquan; 05-12-2022 at 07:45 PM.

  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaquan View Post
    Bots? Like what the 4k+ removed in last two weeks? No they definitely didn't do it. The numbers on Lodestone must be made up.
    So, are we meant to witch hunt bots that are still active? Stalking itself is against TOS but I doubt the bots would care, neither would the evidence that can be gathered from looking at them because they obviously aren't going to stream themselves botting.
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  3. #273
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaquan View Post
    Bots? Like what the 4k+ removed in last two weeks? No they definitely didn't do it. The numbers on Lodestone must be made up.

    Anyway... There's one thing between your anecdote and this situation that doesn't line up. SE has zero ways of knowing whether you use add-ons or not. Unless you're reported with a solid proof that it's indeed a thing. The rule and enforcement always worked if that was the case. And in this regard nothing changed. They don't hunt you down unless you're brought to their attention with the proof of your guilt

    EDIT: can't seem to make new posts... For clarification My first sentence was talking about this

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...84ae82cd3320e8
    Oh come on now, read the link you're citing first at the very least.

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 4,887
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 10
    That's the bots you occasionally see popping in and out of dungeons grinding up money. The Eureka bots have absolutely nothing on these guys lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JyGk7LvHWI is one such example.

    ・Botting activity (excluding RMT vendors)
     ・Accounts terminated: 7
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 8
    This is the one that's relevant.

    15 accounts. Worldwide. I suspect you'll find that many in a single Eureka instance at some points.
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  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Same kind of energy as someone bragging about their Reddit karma. I can't
    You're not wrong there, but it's more that I see throw away accounts on here with low post counts- it's hard to take them seriously, especially when trying THAT hard to get a rise out of me.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 05-12-2022 at 10:19 PM.

  5. #275
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    Adela Skychaser
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    That’s a lot of text trying to deflect.
    Thank you for summarizing your post in the first sentence. You made zero effort to address any of the points I raised.
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    "Once upon a time, you were the based healer, who could carry any tank through the largest of pulls! Now you're just here because the Duty Finder said you have to be." - Lucy Pyre

  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaquan View Post
    Bots? Like what the 4k+ removed in last two weeks? No they definitely didn't do it. The numbers on Lodestone must be made up.

    Anyway... There's one thing between your anecdote and this situation that doesn't line up. SE has zero ways of knowing whether you use add-ons or not. Unless you're reported with a solid proof that it's indeed a thing. The rule and enforcement always worked if that was the case. And in this regard nothing changed. They don't hunt you down unless you're brought to their attention with the proof of your guilt

    EDIT: can't seem to make new posts... For clarification My first sentence was talking about this

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...84ae82cd3320e8
    How are people still so unknowledgeable about what the bans actually mean?
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I have never in the 8 years I've been playing this game ever seen a single mention of anyone's DPS in any group chat ever. It simply is not a common occurrence in this game.
    then you kinda answered the million dollar question if it never gets brought up then whats the purpose of addons then !!

    i find it kinda hard to believe in 8 years you have never been in a group that has not brought up dps or that of other players or maybe the groups have never used dps addons or are respectful which can be rare in ffxiv some times !!
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  8. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punslinger View Post
    Because rules are always just and never poorly-conceived or unevenly-enforced, right?



    How is it "data you shouldn't be able to see?"

    Given: The game records your co-healer's use of Swiftcast in the combat log.
    Given: Swiftcast has a known cooldown of fixed length.

    Conclusion: You can look at the combat log and the elapsed time to determine the remaining cooldown. Or is subtraction a secret forbidden technique we're not supposed to understand? (Actually, given how much trouble people had with Construct 8...)
    i got put in ffxiv jail once for a run in with some arsehole in a dungeon who reported me for swearing even though the arsehole baited me and was the cause pulling mobs constantly and being a absolute d..k ..

    is that just or fair either way i got the ban and took it !!

    my main account has been perma banned from the forums over same sex marriage argument that got heated back when the eternal bonding was introduced no names were called they singled out my 3 posts and warned me on all 3 and banned before i knew i even got a first warning on a post

    is that fair id say no but it is what it is

    they have to deal with the 1% that are such f..king idiots that go out of their way the ruin it for everyone !!

    seriously how do they individualize every complaint every exploit every win swap every addon used on a day to day basis over how many millions of players ?

    they dont these are the rules if your spotted ( like stupidly streaming them ) ban hammer simple !!
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    Last edited by iluke77; 05-14-2022 at 12:39 AM.

  9. #279
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    Oberon Astraxis
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluke77 View Post
    if it never gets brought up then whats the purpose of addons then !!
    To be used in mid to hardcore groups for difficult content which you have absolutely no experience with, and the other person may not either. The reality is that if you only do casual content in this game, you probably will never hear about addons. I played very casually for 4 years and didn't hear about them either.

    Also, you are a level 17 conjurer. Please stay in your lane.
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  10. #280
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwingLifeAway View Post
    To be used in mid to hardcore groups for difficult content which you have absolutely no experience with, and the other person may not either. The reality is that if you only do casual content in this game, you probably will never hear about addons. I played very casually for 4 years and didn't hear about them either.

    Also, you are a level 17 conjurer. Please stay in your lane.
    To start i was here when there was thread after thread about why we couldnt use 3rd party addons and parsers..

    yoshi p stated that he didnt want them in the game and was maybe looking at some in house addons for the game this was back in 2014 not long after release

    And ive played arr since beta phase 3 and my main account is perma banned from the forums of which im lvl 90 in most classes with about 5 alts quite high !

    Also by the looks of youre join date of 2022 you should be staying in your lane and not second guessing how much i may or may not know about ffxiv !!

    because most likely ive been playing ffxiv alot longer than you !

    @VerdeLuck because of my limit

    i have 3 accounts i pay my sub im doing nothing wrong if i want to post im allowed

    Also i happily admit to my bans and jail time for the very reason people cry foul of getting banned i did something wrong and payed the price for it !!

    @SwingLifeAway

    your the one being hostile and second guessing my knowledge

    and i have to deal with the likes of you assuming im a noob when in actual fact it may be the other way around!!
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    Last edited by iluke77; 05-14-2022 at 01:28 AM.

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