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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    Stop pointing fingers this all stems from savage raiding folks wanting "an advantage" your excuses are not going to be tolerated anymore
    you have to be trolling here lol. what advantage do you think UI mods give savage raiders? Its literally QoL and aesthetic appearance thats literally all most mods provide. a handful also give automated callouts, but even those have no impact on another person's experience. why do you people care if someone uses mods/add-ons when it doesn't effect you at all?
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    Yes yes, I am certain that they will.

    But those people who don't raid, have the raiding community, streamers, and other content creators to blame for it.

    People just wanted to change up their characters, clothing options, and certain graphic enhancements for great photos. However due to the putzes who broadcasted their use of Addons and alike, they have forced SE's hand to take action, not against one part of the community but the community as a whole, because idiots can't play a game, a game mind you that is super easy, without Addons holding their hand.

    I'm sure that as SE looks into this, they could take a more lenient approach to those who, use cosmetic/graphical mods opposed to the, "Raiding is srsbsnss community." who demands that they can use Addons to give themselves an advantage in content. I hope all these Meta-slave world firsters, are rethinking their approach to content, or their "Accomplishments." may not be valid anymore.
    They have not "forced SE's hand." They've been doing the thing theyve been doing for YEARS at this point. SE could continue to ignore it, as they always have. Instead they've chosen to placate a small number of people who complain about the "authenticity" of the UNOFFICIAL world first race that they barely acknowledge. SE could also give clear guidelines regarding add-ons, after all they have basically said GSHADE is ok already. Just tell people that if you use a parser any harassment whatsoever in or out of the game, for any reason, is going to be a zero-tolerance bannable offense. Tell people that UI customization is OK, since it is literally a cosmetic change and thats it. This zero-tolerance approach to add-ons is nonsense.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRAW View Post
    They have not "forced SE's hand." They've been doing the thing theyve been doing for YEARS at this point. SE could continue to ignore it, as they always have. Instead they've chosen to placate a small number of people who complain about the "authenticity" of the UNOFFICIAL world first race that they barely acknowledge. SE could also give clear guidelines regarding add-ons, after all they have basically said GSHADE is ok already. Just tell people that if you use a parser any harassment whatsoever in or out of the game, for any reason, is going to be a zero-tolerance bannable offense. Tell people that UI customization is OK, since it is literally a cosmetic change and thats it. This zero-tolerance approach to add-ons is nonsense.
    It's even more amusing when you consider that even the addons that do give an advantage, don't give one in the world first race. Because the timeline of the fight needs to be put into the program first for it to be able to do anything. Which requires people clear the fight first.
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  4. #54
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    People are emboldened after mass reporting someone worked. Now the witch hunts have started, and are becoming more widespread.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRAW View Post
    you have to be trolling here lol. what advantage do you think UI mods give savage raiders? Its literally QoL and aesthetic appearance thats literally all most mods provide. a handful also give automated callouts, but even those have no impact on another person's experience. why do you people care if someone uses mods/add-ons when it doesn't effect you at all?
    There are likely more players that use mods for aesthetics, than there are for what ever advantage you think savage raiders are getting from there mods. SE said to stop doing that as well, and what do people do? Post there pics on Twitter of there shirtless male character all nipped up. Why aren't those players banned? Well they weren't mass reported.

    Same problem, different mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRAW View Post
    you have to be trolling here lol. what advantage do you think UI mods give savage raiders? Its literally QoL and aesthetic appearance thats literally all most mods provide. a handful also give automated callouts, but even those have no impact on another person's experience. why do you people care if someone uses mods/add-ons when it doesn't effect you at all?
    Literally all most?
    You're obviously being intentionally obtuse here. There is such a thing as 'cactbot' which can bend your ping to your will, something that people who have categorically sworn off all mobs can not do. Do you think that doesn't provide any benefit for savage raiders?(see people who care very, very deeply about ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶d̶a̶m̶a̶g̶e̶ scores on some websites)

    The /truth/ is as follows: People are upset that they have been breaking the rules with impunity and suddenly they face(what they knew all along) that their actions have consequences. Now we reach a turning point, knowing that they are acting out of step with the rules established for the game, will people decide to stop using add-ons, or will they create parallel excuses for why they particularly actually deserve to use add-ons. -I mean they can't tell I'm using them. -Who are they to tell ME what I can do?!-
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    There are likely more players that use mods for aesthetics, than there are for what ever advantage you think savage raiders are getting from there mods. SE said to stop doing that as well, and what do people do? Post there pics on Twitter of there shirtless male character all nipped up. Why aren't those players banned? Well they weren't mass reported.

    Same problem, different mods.
    Even without mods or addons do you think lewd pictures of FF14 characters wouldn't exist? Look at Overwatch and Fortnite for clear examples of why that's just not a realistic point of view. Its hard for me to believe that the SE devs are that out of touch with the realities of the internet. You can't escape lewd pictures.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaene View Post
    Literally all most?
    You're obviously being intentionally obtuse here. There is such a thing as 'cactbot' which can bend your ping to your will, something that people who have categorically sworn off all mobs can not do. Do you think that doesn't provide any benefit for savage raiders?(see people who care very, very deeply about ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶d̶a̶m̶a̶g̶e̶ scores on some websites)

    The /truth/ is as follows: People are upset that they have been breaking the rules with impunity and suddenly they face(what they knew all along) that their actions have consequences. Now we reach a turning point, knowing that they are acting out of step with the rules established for the game, will people decide to stop using add-ons, or will they create parallel excuses for why they particularly actually deserve to use add-ons. -I mean they can't tell I'm using them. -Who are they to tell ME what I can do?!-
    Did you read the rest of my statement which included mention of programs like Cactbot which provide automated callouts. But as I said before none of those have any sort of impact on another player's experience with the game, so why does anyone care what another player is doing?
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    Stop pointing fingers this all stems from savage raiding folks wanting "an advantage" your excuses are not going to be tolerated anymore
    This all stems from SE failing to do basic updates to the UI QoL, things they have themselves admitted they failed to do.

    Your favourite company wants to Invest in NFTs, stop acting like they are the arbiter of all that is good and right, they make mistakes
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRAW View Post
    Even without mods or addons do you think lewd pictures of FF14 characters wouldn't exist? Look at Overwatch and Fortnite for clear examples of why that's just not a realistic point of view. Its hard for me to believe that the SE devs are that out of touch with the realities of the internet. You can't escape lewd pictures.
    There's a notable difference between fanart, and using the game itself for the pictures. Especially since the later needs you to mod the game.
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