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  1. #41
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    They already allow add-ons lol, they always have. They've just told people to be discreet with them more-or-less once you get through corporate speak. And btw the amount of people who use addons are bigger than you think, it's not just raiders, but gposers/housers/rpers as well, so if they really wanted to implement an anti-cheat or something close to that, they're pretty much going to take out a huge population of people who have nothing to do with raiding lol. If you think they're going to start banning people enmasse for addons, you're crazy.
    They don't allow them.

    They strictly say no addons. They just don't actively go after people.

    If you use them in plain sight, you will get banned.
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  2. #42
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    I think it should be discussed everywhere

    Start a forest fire
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They don't allow them.

    They strictly say no addons. They just don't actively go after people.

    If you use them in plain sight, you will get banned.
    What do you think the word "discreet" means? Yeah of course they won't allow it in plain sight and they outright have to disallow it in some capacity. But they also mention they can't/won't search your computer for them, so up to you on how you want to interpret that. :shrug:
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    They already allow add-ons lol, they always have. They've just told people to be discreet with them more-or-less once you get through corporate speak. And btw the amount of people who use addons are bigger than you think, it's not just raiders, but gposers/housers/rpers as well, so if they really wanted to implement an anti-cheat or something close to that, they're pretty much going to take out a huge population of people who have nothing to do with raiding lol. If you think they're going to start banning people enmasse for addons, you're crazy.
    Yes yes, I am certain that they will.

    But those people who don't raid, have the raiding community, streamers, and other content creators to blame for it.

    People just wanted to change up their characters, clothing options, and certain graphic enhancements for great photos. However due to the putzes who broadcasted their use of Addons and alike, they have forced SE's hand to take action, not against one part of the community but the community as a whole, because idiots can't play a game, a game mind you that is super easy, without Addons holding their hand.

    I'm sure that as SE looks into this, they could take a more lenient approach to those who, use cosmetic/graphical mods opposed to the, "Raiding is srsbsnss community." who demands that they can use Addons to give themselves an advantage in content. I hope all these Meta-slave world firsters, are rethinking their approach to content, or their "Accomplishments." may not be valid anymore.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    Yes yes, I am certain that they will.

    People just wanted to change up their characters, clothing options, and certain graphic enhancements for great photos. However due to the putzes who broadcasted their use of Addons and alike, they have forced SE's hand to take action, not against one part of the community but the community as a whole, because idiots can't play a game, a game mind you that is super easy, without Addons holding their hand.

    I'm sure that as SE looks into this, they could take a more lenient approach to those who, use cosmetic/graphical mods opposed to the, "Raiding is srsbsnss community." who demands that they can use Addons to give themselves an advantage in content. I hope all these Meta-slave world firsters, are rethinking their approach to content, or their "Accomplishments." may not be valid anymore.
    BTW SE has taken action against GPosers before, sanctioning accounts for posting NSFW modded shots of their character on twitter. But I guess we can't blame those people right?

    And you can't have one without the other. Maybe people who "just wanted to change their characters and clothing options" and use "graphical enhancements" should just deal with the tools and options SE has given them. I mean they can take great shots without addons holding their hands so why do they have to resort to using mods to achieve poses you couldn't normally do in the game?

    Same thing with housers, just deal with the glitches and don't use addons that can't sink furniture into the walls/floor more than the game glitches allow you to. If you're already glitching them, then why the need for addons right? If they don't like the rules of the ToS, no one is forcing them to play, they can move onto a game that allows them to dress up their character or decorate their house however they wish with their addons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    BTW SE has taken action against GPosers before, sanctioning accounts for posting NSFW modded shots of their character on twitter. But I guess we can't blame those people right?

    And you can't have one without the other. Maybe people who "just wanted to change their characters and clothing options" and use "graphical enhancements" should just deal with the tools and options SE has given them. I mean they can take great shots without addons holding their hands so why do they have to resort to using mods to achieve poses you couldn't normally do in the game?

    Same thing with housers, just deal with the glitches and don't use addons that can't sink furniture into the walls/floor more than the game glitches allow you to. If you're already glitching them, then why the need for addons right? If they don't like the rules of the ToS, no one is forcing them to play, they can move onto a game that allows them to dress up their character or decorate their house however they wish with their addons.
    Move on child, no one needs to entertain you anymore.
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  8. #48
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    Move on child, no one needs to entertain you anymore.
    I entertain myself on these forums (plus there's good enough entertainment without me adding to it), I don't need anyone to do that for me. :P I'm just trying to figure out why some addons are okay but not the others? If we can't use dps meters or buff raid timers why can housers use addons to sink furniture beyond game limits or gposers use features not added in the game innately? It's either all okay or none of it is.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    Folks need to chill the hell out, this has gone too far and you're doing things outside of SE purview to do some really shady stuff just to control the narrative. The savage raiding community in response to people who oppose mods/addons use by the savage raiding community, by getting photos that are not modded tagged with sensitive content flags on Twitter and harassing and reporting folks on Reddit for this, then using the external reporting system to get them banned in-game. This problem sits squarely on the savage raiding community's shoulders, the rest of the community didn't cause this problem you the aforementioned group did, and they are doing all this to quash dissent and to deflect the heat they are taking. Take responsibility for your actions! I and others know your all are false flagging and using the external reporting system as a weapon to shut down other people's voices who voiced opposition to your opinion on using addons/mods even I was hit with it over a kitten gif that had the caption of "moo" today, so keep playing these games off-platform with people and the term "F around and find out" might happen. The savage raiders' actions cause more problems than good for everyone and no matter what you folks spin it. It only goes to show the actions you and others take outside of SE's prevue to get rid of people in-game will cause this community to break down even more so you folks can continue to raid. I hope you are happy because it is not going to last much longer. Not only are you folks represent less than 2% of the community who push the envelope, but you folks broke the seal on it, and this is the direct result of it so in response, you are targeting people (Me included) that have a dissenting opinion about the mods/addons, an issue that the savage raiding community created. at the same time. SE should have made this issue (that the savage raiders created btw) crystal clear when this issue crept up back in 2020 so there so part of the fault rests on them too. Never in all my time gaming have I seen such irresponsible, selfish, elitist behavior from a group of individuals in my life. I bet if SE designed the not to let mods or addons access the servers at all you would A: Not play or B: find a way to make mods and addons work just to violate TOS and EULA still to get an advantage over the rest of the population.
    Not true, the use of I think it is dalamude that allows you to make your characters nude, and perform sexual acts on each other has been mentioned as well.
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    *read the last five pages*

    Fantastic community.
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