Great Community Btw

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I suppose the forum users don't play the game.

It's the same community. The only reason people don't speak up as much in-game, is because they are afraid of getting banned.

Not what I said.
Im saying the Experience being online and playing the game, are different from the FFXIV Forums. There is a difference.

And nah, there are plenty of people who arnt afraid to speak their mind. These people are typically the High-End Raiders though.
I only ever really see them when running that level of content. But every so often they are in the Open world, in dungeons, Raids, and in Trials. Even the PF.
So its not like they dont exist, or they are "Afraid"

[SturmChurro]

Not what I said.
Im saying the Experience being online and playing the game, are different from the FFXIV Forums. There is a difference.

And nah, there are plenty of people who arnt afraid to speak their mind. These people are typically the High-End Raiders though.
I only ever really see them when running that level of content. But every so often they are in the Open world, in dungeons, Raids, and in Trials. Even the PF.
So its not like they dont exist, or they are "Afraid"

The forums aren't even really "toxic". People are rightfully upset, about a modicum of issues recently. These are the official forums; somewhere to attempt to post feedback to the devs. A few troll threads by a couple people, aside. It's all completely understandable.

The thing a lot of people here confuse is what "toxicity" really is.

[Skivvy]

Eh, have you been playing the same game as me? I am still trying to figure out how this game won best community award in the first place.

This community said I was a racist, cause I said I thought the developers have gotten lazy.

I'm guessing because the in-game community is vaaaaastly different than all that crotchety folk that live on the social sites. The online community is absolute rubbish while the in-game community isn't the worst. Granted, I personally wouldn't claim this to be the best community, but then I've been living on the forums/subreddits since the beginning and I've seen far too much of the obnoxious side. Hard to separate the two at times.

We do think rather highly of ourselves though, and that in itself is incredibly annoying.

[SturmChurro]

I'm guessing because the in-game community is vaaaaastly different than all that crotchety folk that live on the social sites. I'd say the online community is absolute rubbish while the in-game community isn't too shabby. Granted, I personally wouldn't claim this to be the best community, but then I've been living on the forums/subreddits since the beginning and I've seen far too much of the obnoxious side. Hard to separate the two at times.

Again, people are just afraid to speak their mind in-game. That's why you see more passive-aggression in-game and feigned positivity. You should see what some of these people post, where they aren't afraid of repercussions.

[IdowhatIwant]

Not what I said.
Im saying the Experience being online and playing the game, are different from the FFXIV Forums. There is a difference.

And nah, there are plenty of people who arnt afraid to speak their mind. These people are typically the High-End Raiders though.
I only ever really see them when running that level of content. But every so often they are in the Open world, in dungeons, Raids, and in Trials. Even the PF.
So its not like they dont exist, or they are "Afraid"

I will usually speak my mind in game and risk a ban. I am sorry but if you are level 90 and you can't run a dungeon and do this crap right, that needs to be called out. How do you spend like 400 - 500 hours playing a game an not know how to play the game still. I am not even talking about being optimized either people get to level 90 and cannot play this game at a basic level. Sure you can blame lack of difficulty curve, or the devs for not teach you, but the finger you should be pointing is at yourselves. I just can't comprehend doing something for 500+ hours and not improving and understanding.

You can try to say its the high end raiders that do this, but it's not just them. Normal people that want to just play the damn game get annoyed by that crap too.

[SturmChurro]

I will usually speak my mind in game and risk a ban. I am sorry but if you are level 90 and you can't run a dungeon and do this crap right, that needs to be called out. How do you spend like 400 - 500 hours playing a game an not know how to play the game still. I am not even talking about being optimized either people get to level 90 and cannot play this game at a basic level. Sure you can blame lack of difficulty curve, or the devs for not teach you, but the finger you should be pointing is at yourselves. I just can't comprehend doing something for 500+ hours and not improving and understanding.

They choose not to 'improve' that's why. They want to play the game their way, and if someone tries to question that, that's a report.

[Reap00]

Honestly, I think we all just need to take a step back and look at ourselves beyond the clown makeup.

This community has been getting so toxic lately. We can argue, complain and moan about the stuff thats been happening lately but frankly I think we all just need to take a break from FFXIV and ourselves and go do other things.

This small forum community is not a representation of the ffxiv community as a whole. This forum is a haven for trolling and complaining.

[Shadowshinra]

This small forum community is not a representation of the ffxiv community as a whole. This forum is a haven for trolling and complaining.

And yet people wonder why the ENG community don't get responses from the devs and community team.. it's hilarious really.

[Reap00]

And yet people wonder why the ENG community don't get responses from the devs and community team.. it's hilarious really.

Is there anything in this forum worth a response? It is a lot of complaining and trolling. They probably have better things to do with their time.

[Haruka_R]

Is there anything in this forum worth a response?

The hairstyle megathread.