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[Fawkes]

I constantly see same 2 bots on Phoenix, one is collecting aethersand and unloads it in limsa, second one is almost 24/7 afk near retainer bell in limsa again. This is happening since like EW start (gathering bot has barely enough gear for collecting sand). Might add 3rd bot in Uldah same afk at retainer bell but i havent checked that place much.

They are still not banned. Apparently this is not a problem for GMs. But UI tweaks is.

And don't even try with "bUt ThEy BaN iN wAvEs". Im sure they are used for RMT, damage has been done for how many months?

I think the difference is proof. If a streamer shows their screen with all sorts of addons running that's proof they're using them. If a guy is gathering stuff like clockwork it could be a bot but they could also just be meticulous. They can't just ban people for being weird, they need to have something that counts as evidence.

[Stasya]

I think the difference is proof. If a streamer shows their screen with all sorts of addons running that's proof they're using them. If a guy is gathering stuff like clockwork it could be a bot but it could also be a meticulous autist. They can't just ban people for being weird, they need to have something that counts as evidence.

Or just you need to be less SE whiteknight. /tell to any reported bot -> doesn't response and continues actions on repeat -> put in jail -> gm laughs as bot tries to his stuff -> ban. But this requires actual work, for GMs it's easier to do nothing everyday and only go onto people who are literally witch hunted by coordinated people.

Also i am taking your "bot that you saw might be a real human" as an insult. It is a bot, i have gatherers at 90, i have saw that bot not only when i gathered different sands before 6.05 but even now when i just go for moonlight one for my needs ... i still see same character with same gear/glam/mount used rotating in same pattern over and over.

And just to add how GMs blatanly doesn't care about botting, like 2-3 months ago there were numerous bots at vendor near limsa bell (iirc it was on Odin and other server). It took like 3 days for these bots to be banned (poor guys had broken script so lazy GMs had to take action).

[Fawkes]

Or just you need to be less SE whiteknight. /tell to any reported bot -> doesn't response and continues actions on repeat -> put in jail -> gm laughs as bot tries to his stuff -> ban. But this requires actual work, for GMs it's easier to do nothing everyday and only go onto people who are literally witch hunted by coordinated people.

Also i am taking your "bot that you saw might be a real human" as an insult. It is a bot, i have gatherers at 90, i have saw that bot not only when i gathered different sands before 6.05 but even now when i just go for moonlight one for my needs ... i still see same character with same gear/glam/mount used rotating in same pattern over and over.

And just to add how GMs blatanly doesn't care about botting, like 2-3 months ago there were numerous bots at vendor near limsa bell (iirc it was on Odin and other server). It took like 3 days for these bots to be banned (poor guys had broken script so lazy GMs had to take action).

I'm not defending SE I'm explaining how they function. Something with direct evidence is going to get acted on. Seeing a guy in the same gear going on the same route is not direct evidence, it's circumstantial. From SE's point of view, the possibility exists that he's not a bot.

It's also why we have the "rule" that it's ok to use addons as long as you don't say you're doing it in ingame chat.