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    i liked the old system way more then what we have now, the word hate is more of a word to use on the pl'ing right now. but the old system was a exp version of the campaign battles. you got what you put into it, you got points for doing your job and what you cast and dmg or heals. it only needed fixing ...not full change ..said this in a post or 2 before but not like they will change it back now. 15man crab parties were awesome, if people weren't getting exp back then it's cause too many of that class, or unequal level ranges. fighting to cure and what not so yes these needed fixing, but to hell did it need to turn into the mess we have now where everyone is afk while 1 person kills everything till they are in there 40's. it's bs. also i like the idea of longer fights, even in pvp games, the fights are too short i always say, make longer drawn out fights that are worth a little more. make it so the tides can change easier (pve too) enough of the 5second kills ...this is the system wow type games have where the only difference in every mob in the entire game is the graphics ..other then that they are just kill the same 1-3 ways. dps, mele heal, or nuke they are all the same crap ...just kill it with your few moves and done. though i do think this game will get better least for some mage classes when dispel comes, we already got ensuna!, but all in all they are probably separate classes so really not much. little off topic but all in the same lol. sry for rant i guess it turned into but tired of this all mmo companies are making dynamic-less mobs when it should be moving in the opposite direction, but heh i guess that is too much work to make every mob as good as fighting the 3bosses they have in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    i liked the old system way more then what we have now, the word hate is more of a word to use on the pl'ing right now. but the old system was a exp version of the campaign battles. you got what you put into it
    You got what you put into it? Sometimes you wouldn't get anything. It isn't fair, it's RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBraver View Post
    You got what you put into it? Sometimes you wouldn't get anything. It isn't fair, it's RNG.
    i forgot to mention that i have gotten 0 xp while soloing mobs back then. Just wanted to point that out. \

    You cant give xp based on ability's. It would take so long to even get it remotely balanced. whats the whm doing, oh hes nuking and not healing to get more xp. hey tank you gotta voke, screw that my riot blade gets me more xp.

    the current system allows you to earn xp as a team which is the way it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    i forgot to mention that i have gotten 0 xp while soloing mobs back then. Just wanted to point that out. \

    You cant give xp based on ability's. It would take so long to even get it remotely balanced. whats the whm doing, oh hes nuking and not healing to get more xp. hey tank you gotta voke, screw that my riot blade gets me more xp.

    the current system allows you to earn xp as a team which is the way it should be.
    Man the good days fighting mobs for 5 mins to get 50 sp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Man the good days fighting mobs for 5 mins to get 50 sp
    50?! You are high balling that sir, how dare you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    50?! You are high balling that sir, how dare you!
    I know I sure as hell loved killing 5 moles in a row with no skillups back in October '10.

    That was the most fun I've ever had in a game ever. Made the game feel so alive and realistic and pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    50?! You are high balling that sir, how dare you!
    Lol i remember fighting a Hippocerf for 4 mins and got 0 exp that system was so awesome lets have it back... Now if the OP said something like lets make all exp from mobs 300 max then could go higher from chains and links then i would have mabye said yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBraver View Post
    You got what you put into it? Sometimes you wouldn't get anything. It isn't fair, it's RNG.
    that was the only thing that needed fixing, maybe i did't state it right in that post but yes, fixing that old system to work right for all would of been great. but all in all if not getting exp was cause u jumped into a group that was using numbers for high exp and didn't care what classes joined. in a correct party setup you would of got plenty, but yes it was broken and needed fixing. i always got exp on my mage long as wasn't more then 1 other healer but even then i just left and made my own or joined one that wasn't packed with healers fighting for cures. it just needed to be fixed. i wouldn't be suprised that hamlets or something in this game ends up being similar to campaign battles. and that is all this system was. campaign battles, everyone in campaign battles got different amount of exp, but in the end just fixing the problems would of been better then scrapping the entire thing and going back to regular grinds that ffxi and other mmos' have.


    and to add, pl'ing and easy drops are a simple way of not adding cash shops to a game. they give you everything to make you happy and keep playing for a long enough time to make lots of money off you. yeah you didn't pay 20bucks for a item in shop but your going to stay subed for a few months ...
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    Last edited by weeble; 03-17-2012 at 02:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    that was the only thing that needed fixing, maybe i did't state it right in that post but yes, fixing that old system to work right for all would of been great. but all in all if not getting exp was cause u jumped into a group that was using numbers for high exp and didn't care what classes joined. in a correct party setup you would of got plenty, but yes it was broken and needed fixing. i always got exp on my mage long as wasn't more then 1 other healer but even then i just left and made my own or joined one that wasn't packed with healers fighting for cures. it just needed to be fixed. i wouldn't be suprised that hamlets or something in this game ends up being similar to campaign battles. and that is all this system was. campaign battles, everyone in campaign battles got different amount of exp, but in the end just fixing the problems would of been better then scrapping the entire thing and going back to regular grinds that ffxi and other mmos' have.
    I'm happy I'm going to be playing with you soon , saronia has some pretty cool people in it.
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