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[Klive]

Honestly, are you retarded? You are prolly the one who was all for "Yeah, sue McDonalds for not warning people that coffee might be hot"

Bad customer service is one thing, but retarded customers who won't get anything they are handed like ten thousand times is just this...retarded customers.

If I go to a bar and get wasted on alcohol I don't bitch at the barkeeper afterwards for not telling me this might end up in a hangover...

Obvious things are just this...obvious...if you're too dumb to get things, don't make other people responsible for your stupidity.

EDIT:
Monzcarro Beat me to the McDonald's thing... hehe Good work Monzarro

Actually I'm a well educated and researched person. Since you brought up the McDonald's case. I'll show you how un-researched you are.

The plaintiff and the spill incident. The plaintiff, a 79-year-old grandmother named Stella Liebeck, was not driving, nor was the vehicle moving when the injury occurred. While the car was stopped, Mrs. Liebeck, who was sitting in the passenger seat, tried to hold the coffee cup between her knees as she removed the lid. The cup tipped over, spilling the contents into her lap.

The injury. Mrs. Liebeck’s injury was anything but trivial. The scalding-hot coffee caused third-degree burns over 16% of her body, including her genital area. She had to be hospitalized for eight days. She required extensive skin grafts and was permanently scarred. She was disabled for a period of two years. During the ensuing trial, Mrs. Liebeck’s physician testified that her injury was one of the worst cases of scalding he’d ever seen.

The coffee. At the time, McDonalds’ corporate specifications explicitly called for coffee to be served at a temperature between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit. An expert witness testified that liquids at this temperature will cause third degree burns of human skin in two to seven seconds. (Coffee served at home is typically 135 to 140 degrees.)

McDonalds’ culpability. During discovery, McDonald’s was required to produce corporate documents of similar cases. More than 700(!) claims had been made against McDonald’s, and many of the victims had suffered third-degree burns similar to Mrs. Liebeck’s. Yet the company had refused to change its policy, supposedly because a consultant had recommended the high temperature as a way to maintain optimum taste. Some have speculated that the real reason for the high temperature was to slow down consumption of the coffee, reducing the demand for free refills.

Please be researched and know what you are talking about before inferring people are retarded. Thank you

Second, this thread caused SE to e-mail Primus and seeing what they can do. Thank you all for you support.

[TheVedis]

Actually I'm a well educated and researched person. Since you brought up the McDonald's case. I'll show you how un-researched you are.

The plaintiff and the spill incident. The plaintiff, a 79-year-old grandmother named Stella Liebeck, was not driving, nor was the vehicle moving when the injury occurred. While the car was stopped, Mrs. Liebeck, who was sitting in the passenger seat, tried to hold the coffee cup between her knees as she removed the lid. The cup tipped over, spilling the contents into her lap.

The injury. Mrs. Liebeck’s injury was anything but trivial. The scalding-hot coffee caused third-degree burns over 16% of her body, including her genital area. She had to be hospitalized for eight days. She required extensive skin grafts and was permanently scarred. She was disabled for a period of two years. During the ensuing trial, Mrs. Liebeck’s physician testified that her injury was one of the worst cases of scalding he’d ever seen.

The coffee. At the time, McDonalds’ corporate specifications explicitly called for coffee to be served at a temperature between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit. An expert witness testified that liquids at this temperature will cause third degree burns of human skin in two to seven seconds. (Coffee served at home is typically 135 to 140 degrees.)

McDonalds’ culpability. During discovery, McDonald’s was required to produce corporate documents of similar cases. More than 700(!) claims had been made against McDonald’s, and many of the victims had suffered third-degree burns similar to Mrs. Liebeck’s. Yet the company had refused to change its policy, supposedly because a consultant had recommended the high temperature as a way to maintain optimum taste. Some have speculated that the real reason for the high temperature was to slow down consumption of the coffee, reducing the demand for free refills.

Please be researched and know what you are talking about before inferring people are retarded. Thank you

Second, this thread caused SE to e-mail Primus and seeing what they can do. Thank you all for you support.

so what your saying, is the customer wants hot coffee its their right, but if they burn themselves, cuz its hot, its the person who sold its fault

cuz we all know that opening a cup of coffee thats held in your lap with your legs is the most awesome idea


i hate to say it, but thats just another great example of a retarded person.


no accountability for what they did, it cant possibly be their fault they decided to open the cup in an akward position knowing it was hot, and knowing it wasnt the best position to do it in and that there is a possibility it might spill

yeah it sucked that she had that happen, but it was her fault


remember, this is a lawsuit happy society, alot of people welcome this kinda thing to happen so that they can sue, dont be surprised if this wasnt another case of that

[LemmingKingXXX]

so what your saying, is the customer wants hot coffee its their right, but if they burn themselves, cuz its hot, its the person who sold its fault

cuz we all know that opening a cup of coffee thats held in your lap with your legs is the most awesome idea


i hate to say it, but thats just another great example of a retarded person.


no accountability for what they did, it cant possibly be their fault they decided to open the cup in an akward position knowing it was hot, and knowing it wasnt the best position to do it in and that there is a possibility it might spill

yeah it sucked that she had that happen, but it was her fault


remember, this is a lawsuit happy society, alot of people welcome this kinda thing to happen so that they can sue, dont be surprised if this wasnt another case of that

The lawsuit wasn't based on the fact that it burned when spilt, it was based on the extremely high temperature (over industry average) that the coffee was kept at causing extremely bad burning. Sure, it wasn't an awesome decision to open the coffee cup at that place at that time, but it could also be reasonably inferred by McDonald's that such an event was likely to occur with a fair degree of frequency and take that into account when it decided how hot to keep it's liquid. There's also a fun little fact that the plaintiff in this case was awarded far more than she actually asked for (was willing to settle for 20,000 covering the cost of medical bills and lost wages prior to hiring a lawyer, the jury ended up trying to give her 2.7 million based on penalizing McD for about two days worth of coffee revenue and both parties eventually settled out of court for about 600,000).

A far better example (even related to this fast food chain) would have been the "sue McDonald's for causing my obesity"

[Sophia]

EDIT:
Monzcarro Beat me to the McDonald's thing... hehe Good work Monzarro

Actually I'm a well educated and researched person. Since you brought up the McDonald's case. I'll show you how un-researched you are.

The plaintiff and the spill incident. The plaintiff, a 79-year-old grandmother named Stella Liebeck, was not driving, nor was the vehicle moving when the injury occurred. While the car was stopped, Mrs. Liebeck, who was sitting in the passenger seat, tried to hold the coffee cup between her knees as she removed the lid. The cup tipped over, spilling the contents into her lap.

The injury. Mrs. Liebeck’s injury was anything but trivial. The scalding-hot coffee caused third-degree burns over 16% of her body, including her genital area. She had to be hospitalized for eight days. She required extensive skin grafts and was permanently scarred. She was disabled for a period of two years. During the ensuing trial, Mrs. Liebeck’s physician testified that her injury was one of the worst cases of scalding he’d ever seen.

The coffee. At the time, McDonalds’ corporate specifications explicitly called for coffee to be served at a temperature between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit. An expert witness testified that liquids at this temperature will cause third degree burns of human skin in two to seven seconds. (Coffee served at home is typically 135 to 140 degrees.)

McDonalds’ culpability. During discovery, McDonald’s was required to produce corporate documents of similar cases. More than 700(!) claims had been made against McDonald’s, and many of the victims had suffered third-degree burns similar to Mrs. Liebeck’s. Yet the company had refused to change its policy, supposedly because a consultant had recommended the high temperature as a way to maintain optimum taste. Some have speculated that the real reason for the high temperature was to slow down consumption of the coffee, reducing the demand for free refills.

Please be researched and know what you are talking about before inferring people are retarded. Thank you

Second, this thread caused SE to e-mail Primus and seeing what they can do. Thank you all for you support.

Seems like a senile dumbass move to open a cup of coffee that way