Petition / Unaccpetable issue about server merger.

[TheVedis]

Actually I'm a well educated and researched person. Since you brought up the McDonald's case. I'll show you how un-researched you are.

The plaintiff and the spill incident. The plaintiff, a 79-year-old grandmother named Stella Liebeck, was not driving, nor was the vehicle moving when the injury occurred. While the car was stopped, Mrs. Liebeck, who was sitting in the passenger seat, tried to hold the coffee cup between her knees as she removed the lid. The cup tipped over, spilling the contents into her lap.

The injury. Mrs. Liebeck’s injury was anything but trivial. The scalding-hot coffee caused third-degree burns over 16% of her body, including her genital area. She had to be hospitalized for eight days. She required extensive skin grafts and was permanently scarred. She was disabled for a period of two years. During the ensuing trial, Mrs. Liebeck’s physician testified that her injury was one of the worst cases of scalding he’d ever seen.

The coffee. At the time, McDonalds’ corporate specifications explicitly called for coffee to be served at a temperature between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit. An expert witness testified that liquids at this temperature will cause third degree burns of human skin in two to seven seconds. (Coffee served at home is typically 135 to 140 degrees.)

McDonalds’ culpability. During discovery, McDonald’s was required to produce corporate documents of similar cases. More than 700(!) claims had been made against McDonald’s, and many of the victims had suffered third-degree burns similar to Mrs. Liebeck’s. Yet the company had refused to change its policy, supposedly because a consultant had recommended the high temperature as a way to maintain optimum taste. Some have speculated that the real reason for the high temperature was to slow down consumption of the coffee, reducing the demand for free refills.

Please be researched and know what you are talking about before inferring people are retarded. Thank you

Second, this thread caused SE to e-mail Primus and seeing what they can do. Thank you all for you support.

so what your saying, is the customer wants hot coffee its their right, but if they burn themselves, cuz its hot, its the person who sold its fault

cuz we all know that opening a cup of coffee thats held in your lap with your legs is the most awesome idea


i hate to say it, but thats just another great example of a retarded person.


no accountability for what they did, it cant possibly be their fault they decided to open the cup in an akward position knowing it was hot, and knowing it wasnt the best position to do it in and that there is a possibility it might spill

yeah it sucked that she had that happen, but it was her fault


remember, this is a lawsuit happy society, alot of people welcome this kinda thing to happen so that they can sue, dont be surprised if this wasnt another case of that

[Peptaru]

lol i looked around, klive retaliated with straight copy pasta from wiki.
if you copy pasta at least give them a foot note! don't pass off what wiki says word for word in an attempt to make it look like you're "well educated and researched" lmao.

i think SE should stick with the "too bad for him" response if it isn't their fault.

[Atoli]

If there is even a slight chance to get money out of it, people sue for everything possible.
No I don't think a microwave needs a sticker saying "please don't attempt to dry your cat in it" but some woman did it, so now we have these labels on our microwaves.
When I buy a set of knives, it's not bad costumer service if they don't tell me "You might get injured if you try to swallow them." just because someone might fail as a human being and do it.
And it's especially not bad costumer service if the text on my food's package says "Remove foil before eating." but I still eat it and maybe have to go to the hospital afterwards. After all, I even got warned.
Which is basically what SE did with this whole server merge thing; they warned us we might not be able to return to our default server if we are stupid enough to pick a different one even though we want to stay on the default one.

Maybe, with a extremely small chance, it is SE's fault; out of the thousands of players of FFXIV they moved one person wrong. In that case, after an email to the Costumer Support, they'll notice and change it.
If they cater to someone's dumbness though, I'll lose all faith in SE.
I'll send an inquiry to transfer me back to Sargatanas out of protest, and then say "Oh I read the server names wrong, I actually wanted to go to Masamune.." and so on.

Sure, even if it is his own fault, I feel bad for your friend.
But if SE helps one person like this, there is no limit. Everyone else will be able to refer to this case and say "You helped him, you can't refuse to move me to the server I wanted to go to either!"
Because treating costumers differently would really be bad costumer service.

[syntaxlies]

Damn, are people still talking about coffee. Guess its better then the op's proposed topic.

[Atoli]

Damn, are people still talking about coffee. Guess its better then the op's proposed topic.

I was talking about microwaves and knives and foil and even tried to bring the topic back to FFXIV, I'm not talking about coffee!

[LemmingKingXXX]

so what your saying, is the customer wants hot coffee its their right, but if they burn themselves, cuz its hot, its the person who sold its fault

cuz we all know that opening a cup of coffee thats held in your lap with your legs is the most awesome idea


i hate to say it, but thats just another great example of a retarded person.


no accountability for what they did, it cant possibly be their fault they decided to open the cup in an akward position knowing it was hot, and knowing it wasnt the best position to do it in and that there is a possibility it might spill

yeah it sucked that she had that happen, but it was her fault


remember, this is a lawsuit happy society, alot of people welcome this kinda thing to happen so that they can sue, dont be surprised if this wasnt another case of that

The lawsuit wasn't based on the fact that it burned when spilt, it was based on the extremely high temperature (over industry average) that the coffee was kept at causing extremely bad burning. Sure, it wasn't an awesome decision to open the coffee cup at that place at that time, but it could also be reasonably inferred by McDonald's that such an event was likely to occur with a fair degree of frequency and take that into account when it decided how hot to keep it's liquid. There's also a fun little fact that the plaintiff in this case was awarded far more than she actually asked for (was willing to settle for 20,000 covering the cost of medical bills and lost wages prior to hiring a lawyer, the jury ended up trying to give her 2.7 million based on penalizing McD for about two days worth of coffee revenue and both parties eventually settled out of court for about 600,000).

A far better example (even related to this fast food chain) would have been the "sue McDonald's for causing my obesity"

[DyskoFox]

Can you people just let this troll thread die. Thank you!

Ps: I would like fries with that.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Huh.. i wish this thread to be lock, is making other ppl paranoid on stuff that does not happen. Good for your friend that SE has contacted him, but i do really wish this thread to be taken down/ lock or what ever, because is very misleading from the very beginning <_< although if ppl tend to read from A to Z should they know that this thread it is misleading.

[Coombah]

this thread is a waste inb4lock

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

This is just a troll topic for attention. Shut it down. If the story doesn't make sense to begin with it's simply not true.