Been seeing a lot of doomsaying in forums/in-game lately

[Havenchild]

If there are a lot of unhappy people then something needs to be addressed.

Like, I'm sorry but... Unhappy people on this scale isn't just a coincidence. It isn't a "loud niche" or clique. People are welcome to argue whether or not said unhappiness is being expressed constructively but this isn't something I believe can be handwaved away.

Happens literally every expansion. Majority of it is just rehashed and reused vitriol and hot takes. But all of it is from the Minority of overall players who are largely never satisfied with the games direction. The same users have been commenting about something bad at literally every thread complaining about some aspect of the game. If you find every single thing about the game bad, you could just idk...leave?

But the bigger issue is there is seemingly a lack of forum moderation which is not limiting these constantly reappearing threads on the exact topic to one thread or timing out people who are clearly spamming the forums.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Some of it is people trying to say things exist between lines of recent events that don't actually exist.
A larger amount of it is ppl claiming the game is headed for failure because something they personally don't like exists in the game.
Part of it is certain ppl coming here trying to promote another game they're playing over FFXIV.

[Sebazy]

Is everyone okay, does anyone wanna talk, like for serious is everyone doing okay, need a break or anything?

I mean, talking is kind of the point of these forums no?

[Jeeqbit]

I dont even want to know how the forums handled Stormblood, and I'm sure Heavensward and ARR era days were just as negative and bad. Basically I believe there never was a time in these forums where "everyone was content and satisfied" otherwise we wouldnt even have this game constantly improve.

It was the same. Stormblood had a lot of launch maintenance because people could not progress in the MSQ when the solo battle instances were full. Worlds were full because of people getting around the auto-logout, but instead of fixing it in Stormblood, they were emptied of players once a day. You also had people who didn't think it was as good as Heavensward. The rest was the same sort of complaints such as not having level 90 abilities in Sastasha.

[Caurcas]

In all honesty XIV has taken a turn downward content wise, job design wise, community wise, etc...It just does not feel like the solid game it once was. It's has its points still, but I don't know how long it can sustain this direction before irreparable damage is done.

[Nethereal]

Please justice for healers. I have 3 buttons. I don't want to quit after I clear DSRU.

[Tehmon]

I have not seen any doomsaying in-game. People barely talk in-game to begin with.

The forums have always attracted people whose main agenda is to criticize the game (for better or for worse), because this is Squeenix's official forum. Other social media platforms don't share that agenda, and don't rally behind every notion of '' game bad now '' (for better or for worse).

I am not saying criticism is bad or invalid, I have my issues with the game as well, but I don't think this forum is a good way to evaluate how majority of the players think or feel.

[hagare]

there has always been doomsaying in the forums.
it's been there 5 years ago
it's here now
it'll be here 5 years from now

[Recon1o6]

The amount of complaints on the forum is directly related to how many issues there are. Currently? there's a lot of major ones and if it isnt there already, its reaching breaking point soon.

A lot of longterm issues simply are not being addressed or outright ignored.

-Healers getting shafted since SB launch with whm's destruction and the utterly appalling changes shb did. Yoshida deliberately ignoring feedback "go play ultimate" is what he answered my question with and didn't have the courtesy to read it properly
-Jobs across the board have been homogenised and dumbed down to the point where most of them have no depth at all and many play similarly. Not a single resource based job exists now, they are all based on rotations. The dps community only woke up to this with Kaiten
-Battle design is getting easier and easier, to the point most content is faceroll and even extremes and some savage fights are barely a challenge. Some dont even need healers! Where's the midcore challenge?
-Housing
-Lack of content or even meaningful repeat content. 6.1's content could be done in 6 hours. There wasn't anything on 6.0s launch either. There is STILL no relic despite askings for it to be on 6.0s launch.
-Viera/hrothgar treatment
-More things are being delayed or cut entirely, even an entire garlemald expansion and now an extra delay to 4 months per patch nd for what? This patch is the most buggy since 2.0 so its clearly not QA as yoshida stated
-The story of 6.1 left many disappointed, and the new story this patch not only killed off the hype it generated but it was a retread of skalla. If even the story is getting crap, then what about the rest of the game? The only core compenent of ff14's experience that hasn't gone downhill is the music

pvp was a surprise because imbalanced as it is, the overall direction is much better than the constant drive for accessibility over the years has given

[TheMightyMollusk]

Mostly it feels like we have three or four actual topics of conversation spread across ten to fifteen threads apiece.