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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisshu View Post
    Onion Knight: Is able to equip all gear, and all abilities, weaponskills, spells and traits from all your unlocked jobs. Build you own class and go nuts. Ofcourse it won't be balanced.
    Onion Knight has long been my "if we had another limited job, I'd like it to be this" wish; you could repurpose the old cross-class skill system -- which still exists, so far as I know, as I believe DoL can cross-class skill the map-marker skills of the other DoL classes -- as the bones of the job to get a head start on it. You could also require that you've got, for instance, three jobs at level 50 before Onion Knight would unlock, to ensure you had a decent range of things to pull from.

    The real problem, though, is gear. The way this game is coded, you can't have a job wear "all gear"; you'd have to have gear that was "all jobs" (like how glamour gear works), which is exactly the inverse of what you'd want with ONK (for lack of a better abbreviation, and also because "ONK" makes me laugh). The only way you could make it work would be to go through on all the role gear (Fending, Maiming, Scouting, Aiming, Healing, Casting -- and for accessories, Slaying) and add "ONK" as one of the valid jobs for all of them.

    Still, that's not an impossible task; we've seen how new jobs get retroactively added to the roles, so -- as issues that need to be tackled for a limited job go -- it's not that much of an obstacle.

    The part that I'm not sure about is what you'd do with ONK. BLU has the Masked Carnivale and the Blue Mage Log... I don't quite know what ONK's gimmick would be, even if I know that I'd love to toy with it mechanically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
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    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Onion Knight has long been my "if we had another limited job, I'd like it to be this" wish; you could repurpose the old cross-class skill system -- which still exists, so far as I know, as I believe DoL can cross-class skill the map-marker skills of the other DoL classes -- as the bones of the job to get a head start on it. You could also require that you've got, for instance, three jobs at level 50 before Onion Knight would unlock, to ensure you had a decent range of things to pull from.

    The real problem, though, is gear. The way this game is coded, you can't have a job wear "all gear"; you'd have to have gear that was "all jobs" (like how glamour gear works), which is exactly the inverse of what you'd want with ONK (for lack of a better abbreviation, and also because "ONK" makes me laugh). The only way you could make it work would be to go through on all the role gear (Fending, Maiming, Scouting, Aiming, Healing, Casting -- and for accessories, Slaying) and add "ONK" as one of the valid jobs for all of them.

    Still, that's not an impossible task; we've seen how new jobs get retroactively added to the roles, so -- as issues that need to be tackled for a limited job go -- it's not that much of an obstacle.

    The part that I'm not sure about is what you'd do with ONK. BLU has the Masked Carnivale and the Blue Mage Log... I don't quite know what ONK's gimmick would be, even if I know that I'd love to toy with it mechanically.
    How about ONK uses DRG/RPR gear? Its heavily plated enough so you still retain the ONK aesthetic while also making sense for a Onion Knight to wear their armor since its built also for mobility instead of heavy defense.
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    The real problem, though, is gear. The way this game is coded, you can't have a job wear "all gear"; you'd have to have gear that was "all jobs" (like how glamour gear works), which is exactly the inverse of what you'd want with ONK (for lack of a better abbreviation, and also because "ONK" makes me laugh). The only way you could make it work would be to go through on all the role gear (Fending, Maiming, Scouting, Aiming, Healing, Casting -- and for accessories, Slaying) and add "ONK" as one of the valid jobs for all of them.
    They could just give onion knight a job trait that says “ignores role requirements on equipment”.

    It would also need a trait that unlocks the most enhanced version of all skills too. For example taking blizzard off BLM won’t do you any good if you don’t have access to umbral ice (which comes from a trait) and you wouldn’t want to be stuck with rage of halone when you have access to royal authority.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 05-01-2022 at 09:40 AM.
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