Dragonsong Ultimate Lore [Save Haurchefant version] Discussion

[Vyrerus]

I can only guess Minstrel is assuming WoL and friends wasted sometime getting Haurchefant to recover from his injuries so they arrived too late to stop Thordan due to that delay.

That would make sense, if it weren't the WoL who defeated Bismarck so that the Discount Elf Pope could get steal the key to Azys Lla. I wanna see Thordan vs. Bismarck.

[Kranel_San]

That would make sense, if it weren't the WoL who defeated Bismarck so that the Discount Elf Pope could get steal the key to Azys Lla. I wanna see Thordan vs. Bismarck.

I wonder what's the purpose of Bismarck summoning from an ascian point of view. The vanu vanu definitely didn't learn the summoning out of nowhere, especially when it has Azys Lla key in its stomach. How did it get there and why?

[Vyrerus]

I wonder what's the purpose of Bismarck summoning from an ascian point of view. The vanu vanu definitely didn't learn the summoning out of nowhere, especially when it has Azys Lla key in its stomach. How did it get there and why?

I imagine they taught the Vanu Vanu to summon it a long time ago, and then nothing could really stop it. It probably ate an Allagan ruin inside of one of the sky islands, incidentally ingesting the key.

[Violyre]

I imagine they taught the Vanu Vanu to summon it a long time ago, and then nothing could really stop it. It probably ate an Allagan ruin inside of one of the sky islands, incidentally ingesting the key.

As I recall, Bismarck had only been recently summoned for...hell if I know. My guess is because the Ascians wanted to do the whole "primals make this world weaker" think and just figured "we taught it to the non-feathered birds, let's teach it to the feathered birds."

I do recall that you find out that the key is in the Sea of Clouds, and decide it might be wise to go talk to the Vanu. Along the way to talk to the good ones, you get a cutscene where Bismarck eats a random island. When you get to the Vanu chieftain, he's like "Yeah, we'll give you the key, but you literally just missed him eating the island it was kept on."

[Vyrerus]

As I recall, Bismarck had only been recently summoned for...hell if I know. My guess is because the Ascians wanted to do the whole "primals make this world weaker" think and just figured "we taught it to the non-feathered birds, let's teach it to the feathered birds."

I do recall that you find out that the key is in the Sea of Clouds, and decide it might be wise to go talk to the Vanu. Along the way to talk to the good ones, you get a cutscene where Bismarck eats a random island. When you get to the Vanu chieftain, he's like "Yeah, we'll give you the key, but you literally just missed him eating the island it was kept on."

It's the first Primal we see in Heavensward when we rescue Emmanellain from the Vundu or Gundu or whatever the bad fat yagudo are called. So it was around probably before we even set foot inside of Ishgard, at a minimum.

[Skyborne]

That would make sense, if it weren't the WoL who defeated Bismarck so that the Discount Elf Pope could get steal the key to Azys Lla. I wanna see Thordan vs. Bismarck.

An old man and a goth girlboss punch a whale in the stomach until he hurls up a key.