I'm back from Lost Ark

[BaconBits]

[Minarisweet]

Why are you back anyways? I wish I could leave xiv but im stockholmed.

[Theodric]

We dont support that pay to win trash over here.

It isn't really 'pay to win'. I tried it out a month after launch, didn't spend a single bit of money on the store and still managed to catch up easily enough between the items I gained naturally and the generous rewards offered through the login bonuses/special events.

With Square Enix flirting with NFT's and selling dolls of comfort characters for £1000 I also find it strange to bash one game for optional purchases but ignore the other. Even if you want to go 'well it's just cosmetics' and ignore stuff like emotes and minions being tied to merchandise, to get extra inventory space in FFXIV you need to pay extra each month.

[Vatom]

Dang he’s out of line but he’s right. Haha

All in all lost ark has better combat but no staying power this is the fate of Korean MMOs but I do think SE could take some ideas from them and adapt to them. I mean they have a real gunner class (which is what I played 75% of the time) combos that feel genuine with abilities that have impacted

But your wonder if it’s so good why comeback. Easy FF has a enjoyable world, people place events that don’t feel hollow 100% of the time though there is some that… eh but overall FF is familiar and alive Lost Ark feels like I’m a solo player and everyone is just there but that isn’t to say it’s not good just not the best at building a community

[Raoabolic]

eh but overall FF is familiar and alive Lost Ark feels like I’m a solo player and everyone is just there but that isn’t to say it’s not good just not the best at building a community

*Comes back after running a dungeon with trusts*

What's that now?

[Vatom]

Fair got me there Haha but I never do trust so I didn’t think of that

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It isn't really 'pay to win'. I tried it out a month after launch, didn't spend a single bit of money on the store and still managed to catch up easily enough between the items I gained naturally and the generous rewards offered through the login bonuses/special events.

With Square Enix flirting with NFT's and selling dolls of comfort characters for £1000 I also find it strange to bash one game for optional purchases but ignore the other. Even if you want to go 'well it's just cosmetics' and ignore stuff like emotes and minions being tied to merchandise, to get extra inventory space in FFXIV you need to pay extra each month.

I haven't heard of anyone spending several grand on XIV within the first month, but that is most definitely a thing in lost Ark.

[Theodric]

I haven't heard of anyone spending several grand on XIV within the first month, but that is most definitely a thing in lost Ark.

How much do you think people pay to get carried through high end content in FFXIV?

[Raoabolic]

I haven't heard of anyone spending several grand on XIV within the first month, but that is most definitely a thing in lost Ark.

I mean, the RMT accounts don't just get to 80 overnight by playing the game! I could see them spending a few grand to prop up an operation.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I haven't heard of anyone spending several grand on XIV within the first month, but that is most definitely a thing in lost Ark.

It’s a thing you *can* do, but not everyone will. Just like someone *could* spend several grand in 14 if they want to. The game is still f2p and you have to actually pay to play this game lol.