Samurai changes are unacceptable in the current iteration

[Roxus]

Hey folks, sorry for the late update. 12 hour shifts and all that.

Popular points on Samurai changes: Samurai are useless, baggage, dead weight. Continuous feedback asking for answers, suggestions being given, and theories on criticals. The speculation that this was all done for Dragonsong's DPS checks, and if so, how the hell is that justified when it's one piece of content? Are we designing jobs based on Ultimate only now? I guess so after what they said about healers. Keep in mind I am one of those people who do Ultimates, and I disagree with this garbage mindset. I'd rather play Scholar than Samurai right now and find it more engaging.

"This game is a failure as a game because it's dull before you can even play."

[butchersblock]

Hey folks, sorry for the late update. 12 hour shifts and all that.

Popular points on Samurai changes: Samurai are useless, baggage, dead weight. Continuous feedback asking for answers, suggestions being given, and theories on criticals. The speculation that this was all done for Dragonsong's DPS checks, and if so, how the hell is that justified when it's one piece of content? Are we designing jobs based on Ultimate only now? I guess so after what they said about healers. Keep in mind I am one of those people who do Ultimates, and I disagree with this garbage mindset. I'd rather play Scholar than Samurai right now and find it more engaging.

"This game is a failure as a game because it's dull before you can even play."

Sorry to derail a bit but could you give us some small updates on what they think about Ninja too?
I believe Ninja is in a better spot than Samurai but far from perfect

[Aco505]

Sorry to derail a bit but could you give us some small updates on what they think about Ninja too?
I believe Ninja is in a better spot than Samurai but far from perfect

I'd like to extend the petition for DRG as well!

[Roxus]

Sorry to derail a bit but could you give us some small updates on what they think about Ninja too?
I believe Ninja is in a better spot than Samurai but far from perfect

No worries. Honestly Ninjas aren't getting much traction because they are the highest DPS at the moment, so it is satisfying to most.

Trick Attack felt like an Identity skill and having it reduced to a personal buff didn't sit right with some. The debuff icon is not unique and there are requests to change it, putting out Death's Design as an example. Mug looks lame, so some want that changed. Requests to have Mudras delayed like current jump to prevent accidents, and comments on Ten Chi Jin messups as well. Those against the changes feel like they are ignored because they are doing the most damage right now. Also people asking for explanations, because it feels like developers touch jobs without any feedback and stay quiet about it. The opinions are all over the place because they are strong, the changes are technically easier to use if you disregard ninki optimization and many don't actually care that much about those kinds of optimizations.

"Please stop robbing Ninja's."

I'd like to extend the petition for DRG as well!

The Jump changes has made the job feel more rigid and there is a request to change it back to 6.08 specifications. Reasoning is the delay and losing the freedom to choose your timings. That is a common opinion and there isn't much deviated from it. They have positive reception to the animation shortening from 6.1, though. They have also asked the developers to come forward and explain job adjustments. This is an important point because they are next in line for major tweaks in 6.2 alongside Astrologian.

"People who don't main Dragoon wanted these changes."

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As for Samurai, more comments on the new Ultimate. They just want them to admit they couldn't balance Samurai for Ultimate. There is a huge loss in traction, partly due to it being a Weekday, but also the fact that many have given up their Katana (or just outright quit).

[ShanaShirayuki]

As for Samurai, more comments on the new Ultimate. They just want them to admit they couldn't balance Samurai for Ultimate. There is a huge loss in traction, partly due to it being a Weekday, but also the fact that many have given up their Katana (or just outright quit).

Those who quit contributed the greatest feedback SE can receive at the moment. It's a double-edged sword essentially. Unfortunate it had to come to that; may their sacrifice not be in vain.

[Aco505]

The Jump changes has made the job feel more rigid and there is a request to change it back to 6.08 specifications. Reasoning is the delay and losing the freedom to choose your timings. That is a common opinion and there isn't much deviated from it. They have positive reception to the animation shortening from 6.1, though. They have also asked the developers to come forward and explain job adjustments. This is an important point because they are next in line for major tweaks in 6.2 alongside Astrologian.

"People who don't main Dragoon wanted these changes."

Thank you! I suppose they're talking about the Mirage Dive merge. It makes sense that JP players share the sentiment of western players!

[butchersblock]

No worries. Honestly Ninjas aren't getting much traction because they are the highest DPS at the moment, so it is satisfying to most.

That's quite disappointing, I feared this might be the case since NIN is very strong currently despite its numerous issues in my opinion. I'm glad that more focus is on SAM who could use all the help it can get but I sincerely hope this won't mean sweeping Ninja under the rug.

[Quor]

Hey folks, sorry for the late update. 12 hour shifts and all that.

Popular points on Samurai changes: Samurai are useless, baggage, dead weight. Continuous feedback asking for answers, suggestions being given, and theories on criticals. The speculation that this was all done for Dragonsong's DPS checks, and if so, how the hell is that justified when it's one piece of content? Are we designing jobs based on Ultimate only now? I guess so after what they said about healers. Keep in mind I am one of those people who do Ultimates, and I disagree with this garbage mindset. I'd rather play Scholar than Samurai right now and find it more engaging.

"This game is a failure as a game because it's dull before you can even play."

Man that's some intense doomposting. But I can't argue with it; everything about these SAM changes, from the un-updated tooltips to the actual changes themselves, comes off as half-baked and half-assed.