6.11 PVE Changes are utterly tone deaf

[Stasya]

Sry i'm not agreed with what you mean. For a controller player is the removel from the Skill Hissatsu Kaiten very good and I dont want it back.

There are MANY ways to reduce number of skills on SAM but you can keep with your trolling here.

You like to spam shinten on controller? "samurai main"

[Feayn]

There are MANY ways to reduce number of skills on SAM but you can keep with your trolling here.

You like to spam shinten on controller? "samurai main"

You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller

[Stasya]

You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller

I have saw zero people who main SAM and play on controller that were up for both awful changes but keep going, dont forget to post on JP forums^^

Again for trolls like you: devs can lower not existing skill bloat by merging abilities together ....

[WorldPeacElbow]

You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller

I'm a Sam main on controller and I want Kaiten back asap. Do not speak for me please.

[FrogBiscuit]

I'm a Sam main on controller and I want Kaiten back asap. Do not speak for me please.

Dito.

Main SAM on Controller without any issue. Feayn does not speak for me. SAM on controller was fine (in fact, I'd argue one of the best classes to actually play on the controller).

I don't even need a button bloat fix. Its fine as it was. But if there is going to be a fix, there are numerous simple changes that could have been made without robbing the job of flavor and feel.

The combination of specific skills has been suggested endlessly in the forum and the removal of kaiten was entirely illogical (at least in regards to the excuses provided for its removal so far).

[Narvack]

You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller

YOU do NOT speak for us

[Quor]

You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller

Loads of other SAM's on controller have voiced that they find Kaiten to be perfectly fine as it was and have had no issues with "button bloat" as described by SE, or anyone else for that matter. A cursory examination of one of the many, many threads about SAM would have shown you this. Ctrl+F "controller" to help sort each page.

[RArchet]

You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller

I am one such person.

Literally never been a problem to have Kaiten on my bar. Learn to use Cross Hotbars. The ones that show up when you press R2 -> L2 or L2 -> R2.

[SleepyEmber]

I am also a sam main who plays on controller, and I'd much rather have a choice between Kaiten or Shinten. Especially considering the fact that with the removal of Kaiten, not only does the job feel less smooth but it also did not at all decrease the amount of buttons I press. All this change did was eliminate my options and need for kenki management. If you have "too many buttons to press" on a controller all this tells me is that you have not at all explored how much customization they've built into the game with controllers in mind. You can fairly easily use 3 hotbars without ever having to tab over to the next one, there are guides everywhere on youtube on how to do it. But sure, let's dumb down the job for no reason, make putting any time into learning it pointless, all for the sake of players like you that can't be bothered to read or search for information