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  1. 04-26-2022 04:11 PM #1
    Xenon_S
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    6.11 PVE Changes are utterly tone deaf

    GNBs have been complaining about movement being cluncky during continuation windows, and 90s bloodfest being awkward. SAM's iai cast ranged was increased to alleviate stress from the increased number of iai casts, but they refuse to do the same for GNB.

    MCH got 120 extra potency every 2 mins. This 120 potency cannot crit or direct hit. Also, Hypercharge is still not on a stack system.

    and SAM. Both the JP and NA forums have expressed an almost unanimous negative feedback over the past two weeks. Kaiten removal makes gameplay boring, autocrit lessens the impact of individual attacks and guts party synergy, tenka goken was nerfed without autocrit and casting a circle in a pack of mob feels bad, the list goes on.

    Bandaid potency buffs just shows a complete lack of competancy and ignorance of player feedback

    I understand that there may not be enough time to do thorough, sweeping changes in just two weeks.

    But how about just saying something to the effects of "we have listened to your feedback"?

    Because the patchnote gives the exact opposite impression: that all of our feedback are being ignored.
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    Last edited by Xenon_S; 04-26-2022 at 04:29 PM.
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  2. 04-26-2022 04:14 PM #2
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    Sry i'm not agreed with what you mean. For a controller player is the removel from the Skill Hissatsu Kaiten very good and I dont want it back.
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  3. 04-26-2022 04:42 PM #3
    Stasya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feayn View Post
    Sry i'm not agreed with what you mean. For a controller player is the removel from the Skill Hissatsu Kaiten very good and I dont want it back.
    There are MANY ways to reduce number of skills on SAM but you can keep with your trolling here.

    You like to spam shinten on controller? "samurai main"
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  4. 04-26-2022 04:44 PM #4
    Feayn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    There are MANY ways to reduce number of skills on SAM but you can keep with your trolling here.

    You like to spam shinten on controller? "samurai main"
    You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller
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  5. 04-26-2022 04:47 PM #5
    Stasya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feayn View Post
    You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller
    I have saw zero people who main SAM and play on controller that were up for both awful changes but keep going, dont forget to post on JP forums^^

    Again for trolls like you: devs can lower not existing skill bloat by merging abilities together ....
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    Last edited by Stasya; 04-26-2022 at 04:49 PM.
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  6. 04-26-2022 05:18 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feayn View Post
    You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller
    I'm a Sam main on controller and I want Kaiten back asap. Do not speak for me please.
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  7. 04-27-2022 01:21 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPeacElbow View Post
    I'm a Sam main on controller and I want Kaiten back asap. Do not speak for me please.
    Dito.

    Main SAM on Controller without any issue. Feayn does not speak for me. SAM on controller was fine (in fact, I'd argue one of the best classes to actually play on the controller).

    I don't even need a button bloat fix. Its fine as it was. But if there is going to be a fix, there are numerous simple changes that could have been made without robbing the job of flavor and feel.

    The combination of specific skills has been suggested endlessly in the forum and the removal of kaiten was entirely illogical (at least in regards to the excuses provided for its removal so far).
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  8. 04-26-2022 05:53 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feayn View Post
    You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller
    YOU do NOT speak for us
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  9. 04-27-2022 01:36 AM #9
    Quor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feayn View Post
    You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller
    Loads of other SAM's on controller have voiced that they find Kaiten to be perfectly fine as it was and have had no issues with "button bloat" as described by SE, or anyone else for that matter. A cursory examination of one of the many, many threads about SAM would have shown you this. Ctrl+F "controller" to help sort each page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    I still wouldn't do it [double weave oGCD's on GNB] because there is a good chance to mess up the rotation and it can easily cause a wipe because of server ticks.
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  10. 04-27-2022 12:52 PM #10
    RArchet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feayn View Post
    You'd better think and consider if I don't mean me, but other "Samurai Mains" who play on the controller
    I am one such person.

    Literally never been a problem to have Kaiten on my bar. Learn to use Cross Hotbars. The ones that show up when you press R2 -> L2 or L2 -> R2.
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