[Feedback] Add Epic Easy Anti-Cheat to FFXIV before is too late

[Johners]

I unistalled Lost Ark as soon as I realized EAC was driving the temperature of my CPU up. My system already runs hot because my case is tempered glass, I don't need to make my CPU any hotter

Why do you keep being obtuse about this? I've played many games with EAC, and other anti-cheat solutions, on a PC and they use a negligible amount of system resources. If your PC is overheating it's because your cooling sucks, not because of a tiny piece of background software in comparison to an actual game that's loading up your CPU and GPU.

There's so much misinformation in this thread about anti-cheat. Are there some bad implementations? Yes. Are there some good implementations? Also yes. Square Enix have a duty to ensure their online game is fair for the entire player base on all platforms and right now this really isn't the case. A client-side anti-cheat is an effective tool in a wider arsenal to keep a game secure. Look at Riot Vanguard in Valorant or Blizzard Warden in World of Warcraft, they both do a wonderful job and have drastically reduced the amount of cheating/botting in comparison to other games of the same genres.

[redheadturk]

Why do you keep being obtuse about this? I've played many games with EAC, and other anti-cheat solutions, on a PC and they use a negligible amount of system resources. If your PC is overheating it's because your cooling sucks, not because of a tiny piece of background software in comparison to an actual game that's loading up your CPU and GPU.

There's so much misinformation in this thread about anti-cheat. Are there some bad implementations? Yes. Are there some good implementations? Also yes. Square Enix have a duty to ensure their online game is fair for the entire player base on all platforms and right now this really isn't the case. A client-side anti-cheat is an effective tool in a wider arsenal to keep a game secure. Look at Riot Vanguard in Valorant or Blizzard Warden in World of Warcraft, they both do a wonderful job and have drastically reduced the amount of cheating/botting in comparison to other games of the same genres.

Vanguard is a damned rootkit and part of why I don't play Valorant. I don't want that shit on my system. Besides, I like that SE doesn't use one because of accessibility plugins I use [Gshade being a major one, because I can use it to increase contrast so that I can actually see mechanics in order to learn them. P3 would be unclearble for me without Gshade.]

[Johners]

Vanguard is a damned rootkit and part of why I don't play Valorant. I don't want that shit on my system. Besides, I like that SE doesn't use one because of accessibility plugins I use [Gshade being a major one, because I can use it to increase contrast so that I can actually see mechanics in order to learn them. P3 would be unclearble for me without Gshade.]

Vanguard functions no differently to any other anti-cheat, it's just Riot configured Valorant to be more sensitive to any triggers. You outright can't log into the game if it's disabled (other games do this anyway) and it'll disconnect you if it senses anything obviously wrong during gameplay. As a competitive shooter this ultimately makes sense because ensuring all matches are fair is best for the health of the game.

Gshade wouldn't trigger an anti-cheat though and NVIDIA even ship a Gshade-equivalent called Reshade as part of their driver software.

[redheadturk]

Vanguard functions no differently to any other anti-cheat, it's just Riot configured Valorant to be more sensitive to any triggers. You outright can't log into the game if it's disabled (other games do this anyway) and it'll disconnect you if it senses anything obviously wrong during gameplay. As a competitive shooter this ultimately makes sense because ensuring all matches are fair is best for the health of the game.

Gshade wouldn't trigger an anti-cheat though and NVIDIA even ship a Gshade-equivalent called Reshade as part of their driver software.

You'd be surprised. Razer synapse has triggered some of the anticheat softwares [Lost Ark logged me out when I turned on Synapse because it tripped EAC]

[JanVanding]

Why do you keep being obtuse about this? I've played many games with EAC, and other anti-cheat solutions, on a PC and they use a negligible amount of system resources. If your PC is overheating it's because your cooling sucks, not because of a tiny piece of background software in comparison to an actual game that's loading up your CPU and GPU.

There's so much misinformation in this thread about anti-cheat. Are there some bad implementations? Yes. Are there some good implementations? Also yes. Square Enix have a duty to ensure their online game is fair for the entire player base on all platforms and right now this really isn't the case. A client-side anti-cheat is an effective tool in a wider arsenal to keep a game secure. Look at Riot Vanguard in Valorant or Blizzard Warden in World of Warcraft, they both do a wonderful job and have drastically reduced the amount of cheating/botting in comparison to other games of the same genres.

What's the disinformation about it? EAC is auto installed with Lost Ark, the botting problem over there is massive and still ongoing to the point the Devs have admitted they are struggling to deal with it.

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/bots-rema...ks-top-issues/

EAC doesn't stop cheating in many of the games it's in, it's basically like Punkbuster, a product that once upon a time was very effective, lives off name value and is completely obselete.

[Andeeria]

What's the disinformation about it? EAC is auto installed with Lost Ark, the botting problem over there is massive and still ongoing to the point the Devs have admitted they are struggling to deal with it.

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/bots-rema...ks-top-issues/

EAC doesn't stop cheating in many of the games it's in, it's basically like Punkbuster, a product that once upon a time was very effective, lives off name value and is completely obselete.

I think he just does not really investigate what he says. Like he even mentions that "Warden does a wonderful job in reducing cheating/botting in WoW" - as a person who also played WoW I can assure that Warden does not do the job very well... especially in Classic.

[JanVanding]

I think he just does not really investigates what he says. Like he even mentions that "Warden does a wonderful job in reducing cheating/botting in WoW" - as a person who also played WoW I can assure that Warden does not do the job very well... especially in Classic.

Last time I played WoW was Legion and bots/cheating was still very much a thing then, you'd regularly get spammed by Gold Sellers and see bots training around. Cheating tended to be kept to BGs as Arena people would call GM attention to it immediately and I actually think this is where the real problem is for SE.

They're much too slow to react to reports of cheating, it should be something they act on as top priority and the fact it isn't even given a mention is the real cause for concern.

[Andeeria]

Last time I played WoW was Legion and bots/cheating was still very much a thing then, you'd regularly get spammed by Gold Sellers and see bots training around. Cheating tended to be kept to BGs as Arena people would call GM attention to it immediately and I actually think this is where the real problem is for SE.

They're much too slow to react to reports of cheating, it should be something they act on as top priority and the fact it isn't even given a mention is the real cause for concern.

Classic is overran with bots farming stuff, Warden does not help at all.

As for the slow reporting, this is kinda a double edged sword. It's valid security practice to let malicious software run a bit (as long as it does not do any big damage) because banning it right away might give the developers of the hack certain information (like for example what triggered the ban) which then helps them develop "fix" for it. This tactic is mostly used in automated systems doing banwaves every now and then. Of course manual reports should be investigated way faster and more throughly but we all know that Blizz does not have good track record with support lately.