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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'd like to know the actual percent I doubt it's 95 percent of the player base. That's not to say they don't need to fix it at this point because there are way too many who want one and can't get one.
    Its kind hard to give an exact metric because we dont know exact player numbers, people who actually want a house, how many of those players are bots, still playing the game ect. But we can actually quantify how many houses exist in FF14.
    Heres a rough estimate with some assumptions on my part:

    -Five Housing Districts: Lavender, Goblet, Mist, Shirogane, Empyreum
    -24 Wards per district
    -60 houses per ward
    -73 Servers across all data centers

    60 x 24 = 1,440 Houses per Housing District
    1,440 x 5 = 7,200 Houses per Server
    7,200 x 73 = 525,600

    Total population of the game is another grey area, websites online have estimates ranging from 25m to 38m, I don't think Square Enix ever publishes exact numbers of this figure, and again that number is heavily obscured by details I mentioned above.
    Not only that but it doesn't account for server density, obviously housing scarcity is a larger issue on bigger servers. No brainer there. but here are your estimates with the numbers I've found.

    525,600 Houses is approximately 1.38% of 38m.
    525,600 Houses is approximately 2.1% of 25m.

    However you'll notice we didn't even account for the fact this is all housing, not Indiviudal or FC. Considering Square Enix sees the current system needs 18 FC wards, 6 Individual buyer wards, those numbers are obviously way lower.
    If you take the data directly like that, then the 95% I spitballed is actually an understatement.

    Its hard to say if this counts or not because obviously not all of those players are active all the time, but then housing doesn't require you to really be active with it, you can just sorta, log in every now and then go in it then log out. Which I think a lot of people do. So I'm inclined to use the larger numbers instead of just currently active players.
    Also doesn't account for assholes from the old system that own entire wards, which would only lower the % further. Point is theres a lot of wiggle room with these precentiles to go lower, and not a lot of argument for them to go higher other than bots/disinterested players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Its kind hard to give an exact metric because we dont know exact player numbers, people who actually want a house, how many of those players are bots, still playing the game ect. But we can actually quantify how many houses exist in FF14.
    Heres a rough estimate with some assumptions on my part:

    -Five Housing Districts: Lavender, Goblet, Mist, Shirogane, Empyreum
    -24 Wards per district
    -60 houses per ward
    -73 Servers across all data centers

    60 x 24 = 1,440 Houses per Housing District
    1,440 x 5 = 7,200 Houses per Server
    7,200 x 73 = 525,600

    Total population of the game is another grey area, websites online have estimates ranging from 25m to 38m, I don't think Square Enix ever publishes exact numbers of this figure, and again that number is heavily obscured by details I mentioned above.
    Not only that but it doesn't account for server density, obviously housing scarcity is a larger issue on bigger servers. No brainer there. but here are your estimates with the numbers I've found.

    525,600 Houses is approximately 1.38% of 38m.
    525,600 Houses is approximately 2.1% of 25m.

    However you'll notice we didn't even account for the fact this is all housing, not Indiviudal or FC. Considering Square Enix sees the current system needs 18 FC wards, 6 Individual buyer wards, those numbers are obviously way lower.
    If you take the data directly like that, then the 95% I spitballed is actually an understatement.

    Its hard to say if this counts or not because obviously not all of those players are active all the time, but then housing doesn't require you to really be active with it, you can just sorta, log in every now and then go in it then log out. Which I think a lot of people do. So I'm inclined to use the larger numbers instead of just currently active players.
    Also doesn't account for assholes from the old system that own entire wards, which would only lower the % further. Point is theres a lot of wiggle room with these precentiles to go lower, and not a lot of argument for them to go higher other than bots/disinterested players.
    Not really, you need to base it on people playing, alot of these accounts is inactive, and why is there only much less people playing per day than those numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Not really, you need to base it on people playing, alot of these accounts is inactive, and why is there only much less people playing per day than those numbers?
    Those are some absolutely borked numbers posted above yours, the daily player population is about 1 to 1.5m, 25 to 38m includes all inactives and even unsubscribed accounts.

    If out of about 1.5m players, there are 525.6k houses, then 1/3 of the population has a house, which seem very fair to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Those are some absolutely borked numbers posted above yours, the daily player population is about 1 to 1.5m, 25 to 38m includes all inactives and even unsubscribed accounts.

    If out of about 1.5m players, there are 525.6k houses, then 1/3 of the population has a house, which seem very fair to me.
    Exactly and spot on, and the person who found out, does not know how to read the actual numbers, SE DO.

    However your Data is old.
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