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    Worst housing system in history

    since ffxiv doesnt care about housing and all legit people will never have a chance to own a house . theres barely enough plots to support 1 out of every 10,000 players on top of that its a lottery meaning theres a chance even after a trillion tries you will never win because its not like your luck goes up after everytime you lose... you may never actually win and once all plots are taken wait another 6-7 years for a post saying "we apologize for the inconvenience we will be busy working on renaming emotes instead of improving housing thank you for your patience as we fix nothing".

    Worst housing system in the world atleast in real life if you live in the most expensive city you can over bid and atleast get what you want after over paying here in ffxiv doesnt matter what the price is you could have multi billion gil but theres no gurantee you will literally ever win a single plot ever since its luck based.

    cant wait for all the comments from entitled people already have a plot to bash on this post with responses featuring "oh i already have a plot so you shouldnt complain and pretend housing problem isnt a real problem " even though we all pay to get access to the same game yet housing isnt available for everyone. Even though its advertised as a part of the game .

    Meanwhile RMT'ers :
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    lets just hope it changes
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    You can still only have one house and 1 FC per account per server you are on, either it is an FC where they want to be on same ward or someone with multiple paid accounts, and that is pretty much end of the story.

    Worst housing system in the world would be instanced housing, I tried that on other games... and its harder to get visitors and the likes, as well as lack of freedom... FFXIV housing is pretty good, but the best system ever was the one in Star Wars Galaxies and absolutely no other games has come close to that ever.

    System also included ways of denying people entrance to the house, as well as if a closed house you could set any number of people allowed to enter as well as admin rights and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    You can still only have one house and 1 FC per account per server you are on, either it is an FC where they want to be on same ward or someone with multiple paid accounts, and that is pretty much end of the story.

    Worst housing system in the world would be instanced housing, I tried that on other games... and its harder to get visitors and the likes, as well as lack of freedom... FFXIV housing is pretty good, but the best system ever was the one in Star Wars Galaxies and absolutely no other games has come close to that ever.

    System also included ways of denying people entrance to the house, as well as if a closed house you could set any number of people allowed to enter as well as admin rights and such.
    You unironically think a system that excludes 95% of the playerbase is better than a system where every player can partake in the system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    You unironically think a system that excludes 95% of the playerbase is better than a system where every player can partake in the system?
    I'd like to know the actual percent I doubt it's 95 percent of the player base. That's not to say they don't need to fix it at this point because there are way too many who want one and can't get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'd like to know the actual percent I doubt it's 95 percent of the player base. That's not to say they don't need to fix it at this point because there are way too many who want one and can't get one.
    i highly doubt its less than 98% im not sure but im not going to be surprised if its around 90-98% of playerbase who are excluded from the housing
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    i highly doubt its less than 98% im not sure but im not going to be surprised if its around 90-98% of playerbase who are excluded from the housing
    You don't have a clue about the percent but it's certainly not that. I understand and so do many here that you're upset. You can continue to rant but I suggest making suggestions that count instead of spouting nonsense would help your cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    ITotal population of the game is another grey area, websites online have estimates ranging from 25m to 38m.
    The actual active player base is probably closer to 2 million maybe 3 with xpac release. I don't have the figures but you don't seriously believe we have that many active players do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    i highly doubt its less than 98% im not sure but im not going to be surprised if its around 90-98% of playerbase who are excluded from the housing
    Prove it?

    And nope you can't base it on accounts, you need to base it on people that want housing and the current active playerbase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'd like to know the actual percent I doubt it's 95 percent of the player base. That's not to say they don't need to fix it at this point because there are way too many who want one and can't get one.
    Its kind hard to give an exact metric because we dont know exact player numbers, people who actually want a house, how many of those players are bots, still playing the game ect. But we can actually quantify how many houses exist in FF14.
    Heres a rough estimate with some assumptions on my part:

    -Five Housing Districts: Lavender, Goblet, Mist, Shirogane, Empyreum
    -24 Wards per district
    -60 houses per ward
    -73 Servers across all data centers

    60 x 24 = 1,440 Houses per Housing District
    1,440 x 5 = 7,200 Houses per Server
    7,200 x 73 = 525,600

    Total population of the game is another grey area, websites online have estimates ranging from 25m to 38m, I don't think Square Enix ever publishes exact numbers of this figure, and again that number is heavily obscured by details I mentioned above.
    Not only that but it doesn't account for server density, obviously housing scarcity is a larger issue on bigger servers. No brainer there. but here are your estimates with the numbers I've found.

    525,600 Houses is approximately 1.38% of 38m.
    525,600 Houses is approximately 2.1% of 25m.

    However you'll notice we didn't even account for the fact this is all housing, not Indiviudal or FC. Considering Square Enix sees the current system needs 18 FC wards, 6 Individual buyer wards, those numbers are obviously way lower.
    If you take the data directly like that, then the 95% I spitballed is actually an understatement.

    Its hard to say if this counts or not because obviously not all of those players are active all the time, but then housing doesn't require you to really be active with it, you can just sorta, log in every now and then go in it then log out. Which I think a lot of people do. So I'm inclined to use the larger numbers instead of just currently active players.
    Also doesn't account for assholes from the old system that own entire wards, which would only lower the % further. Point is theres a lot of wiggle room with these precentiles to go lower, and not a lot of argument for them to go higher other than bots/disinterested players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Its kind hard to give an exact metric because we dont know exact player numbers, people who actually want a house, how many of those players are bots, still playing the game ect. But we can actually quantify how many houses exist in FF14.
    Heres a rough estimate with some assumptions on my part:

    -Five Housing Districts: Lavender, Goblet, Mist, Shirogane, Empyreum
    -24 Wards per district
    -60 houses per ward
    -73 Servers across all data centers

    60 x 24 = 1,440 Houses per Housing District
    1,440 x 5 = 7,200 Houses per Server
    7,200 x 73 = 525,600

    Total population of the game is another grey area, websites online have estimates ranging from 25m to 38m, I don't think Square Enix ever publishes exact numbers of this figure, and again that number is heavily obscured by details I mentioned above.
    Not only that but it doesn't account for server density, obviously housing scarcity is a larger issue on bigger servers. No brainer there. but here are your estimates with the numbers I've found.

    525,600 Houses is approximately 1.38% of 38m.
    525,600 Houses is approximately 2.1% of 25m.

    However you'll notice we didn't even account for the fact this is all housing, not Indiviudal or FC. Considering Square Enix sees the current system needs 18 FC wards, 6 Individual buyer wards, those numbers are obviously way lower.
    If you take the data directly like that, then the 95% I spitballed is actually an understatement.

    Its hard to say if this counts or not because obviously not all of those players are active all the time, but then housing doesn't require you to really be active with it, you can just sorta, log in every now and then go in it then log out. Which I think a lot of people do. So I'm inclined to use the larger numbers instead of just currently active players.
    Also doesn't account for assholes from the old system that own entire wards, which would only lower the % further. Point is theres a lot of wiggle room with these precentiles to go lower, and not a lot of argument for them to go higher other than bots/disinterested players.
    Not really, you need to base it on people playing, alot of these accounts is inactive, and why is there only much less people playing per day than those numbers?
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