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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Or simply do not use automated enforcement, expand the enforcement team so they can have actual eyes on the problems to enforce the rules against the actual cheaters. Automated tools that not only eliminate the QOL mods and accessibility mods that disabled people use, but also eliminate mac and linux users, and would actually eliminate console users as well as consoles cannot run anticheat are not the answer. Extra enforcement staff to catch and punish cheaters is
    Hey, i am not for client side anticheat mechanisms because i know their limitations and what harm they can cause for the overall security state of a client. And it seems to me, that some people vastly overestimate which things are possible with those anticheat tools or what SQEX can do on the server side. And no, "look into the log" is not a good solution. It is very personal ressources consuming. Reading and analyzing logs is not a trivial task. And logs are not very accurate. Trying to figure out, whether a reaction of a player is "not possible as a human" or not would be maaaaaybe possible in a zero latency environment between clients and servers. But the internet is not zero latency. And because it is not guaranteed, that the ip packets will always take the same route between client and server, there will always be situations, which look like "reaction is not possible as a human" in the logs and the player is not guilty using cheats. Sorry, the whole thing is not so easy as it seems.


    Quote Originally Posted by forsakee View Post
    No we don't need in-game NSFW mods, that sounds like a way too lose a lot of revenue! Would change the rating of the game and could possibly get the game banned by many cultures due to laws/religion etc.
    That is the reason why i used the word "maybe". A lot of mods are for nsfw content.

    But they could start with sfw content first. More hairstyles, more faces, more clothes ...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Hey, i am not for client side anticheat mechanisms because i know their limitations and what harm they can cause for the overall security state of a client. And it seems to me, that some people vastly overestimate which things are possible with those anticheat tools or what SQEX can do on the server side. And no, "look into the log" is not a good solution. It is very personal ressources consuming. Reading and analyzing logs is not a trivial task. And logs are not very accurate. Trying to figure out, whether a reaction of a player is "not possible as a human" or not would be maaaaaybe possible in a zero latency environment between clients and servers. But the internet is not zero latency. And because it is not guaranteed, that the ip packets will always take the same route between client and server, there will always be situations, which look like "reaction is not possible as a human" in the logs and the player is not guilty using cheats. Sorry, the whole thing is not so easy as it seems.




    That is the reason why i used the word "maybe". A lot of mods are for nsfw content.

    But they could start with sfw content first. More hairstyles, more faces, more clothes ...




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    A few false positives with actual real people that can be reversed later are better than wholesale eliminating accessibility for disabled people that use mods for such. I will always advocate for enforcement by real people over automated tools, and I will never support automated tools, whether server or client side.
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    Last edited by redheadturk; 04-25-2022 at 10:30 PM.