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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    If anything, I'd say cones (or lines) should be part 2 of the AOE combo, just not part 1. I'm not wholly against the idea of them, but, on the rare occasion I'd ever tank, years ago, I always missed picking up more stuff on WAR for not knowing/judging the cone accurately, or a pack being just a little too spread out.
    Why would you want the skill with greater range so long as mobs are in front of you to come after the engage (in which all mobs are necessarily in front of you)? Keep the better engage tool first, and the lower-range but faintly more lenient tool second.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    Why would anyone think the Cone AoEs in this game are good? Circle AoEs don't require a target, can be spammed to hit mobs without interrupting your movement while doing the pull, and even if you didn't have those prior factors involved, they snapshot behind you while you're moving and still hit in front of you as you're picking mobs up, so they wind up hitting more mobs than a cone would with less total attacks.
    Let's not pretend appropriate targeting is hard or gets in the way of movement. The two also "snapshot" to the very same degree. And both need only ANY part of the target's hitring to be within that area of attack, meaning it's a whole lot harder for conals to miss enemies to your immediate sides than it might first appear (at least, if one never bothered to check for floating damage text).

    As such, there's only one real difference between conal AoEs and radial AoEs: Radial AoEs sacrifice 3 yalms range and ~48 square yalms (at a 150-degree cone) area in FRONT of you to be able to also hit BEHIND you.

    That can only be positive if you have enemies behind you... which is entirely within your ability to prevent. You're spending all that on the assumption you'd otherwise fail an exceedingly easy task.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 04-24-2022 at 04:05 PM.