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  1. #11
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    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    If anything, I'd say cones (or lines) should be part 2 of the AOE combo, just not part 1. I'm not wholly against the idea of them, but, on the rare occasion I'd ever tank, years ago, I always missed picking up more stuff on WAR for not knowing/judging the cone accurately, or a pack being just a little too spread out.
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  2. #12
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    Kallis Cursmali
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    If anything, I'd say cones (or lines) should be part 2 of the AOE combo, just not part 1. I'm not wholly against the idea of them, but, on the rare occasion I'd ever tank, years ago, I always missed picking up more stuff on WAR for not knowing/judging the cone accurately, or a pack being just a little too spread out.
    If you had practiced more with it, I guarantee you would have ended up liking it better as the first hit in a combo. Not that it matters that much just for picking up mobs, combo or not. But doing it first let you pull a large spread out pack very comfortably on that very first GCD, if you have gap closer unlocked start with it, switch to another target and position across from them, boom, all mobs are on you now. If you're synced down below having it unlocked, this works just as well with tomahawk instead of the gap closer, AoE coming out on the 2nd GCD, still no time wasted running around to grab all the emnity
    Only possible with the cone's extra 3y length from point of origin
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  3. #13
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    As a DD/Healer, my job would go smoother if all the tanks had at least one step of their AoE combos as a cone AoE because then they wouldn't park in the middle of a pack with enemies spread out on four sides of them. Cones encourage a tank to run out to the side of the pack, which gathers them tighter than if the tank just stands in the middle spamming circles. If the mobs aren't gathered tightly enough, I can't hit them all. I can make certain adjustments to hit more targets but that's only manageable to a point. Spells with a 5y radius don't really hit that large an area.
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  4. #14
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    Elise D'lala
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Today I was forced to play Warrior with my friends on the new dungeon. I hated it please bring back cone.
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  5. #15
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    Kallis Cursmali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    As a DD/Healer, my job would go smoother if all the tanks had at least one step of their AoE combos as a cone AoE because then they wouldn't park in the middle of a pack with enemies spread out on four sides of them. Cones encourage a tank to run out to the side of the pack, which gathers them tighter than if the tank just stands in the middle spamming circles.... Spells with a 5y radius don't really hit that large an area.
    If only there were more DPS and healers like you who noticed and APPRECIATED the work I was putting in to keep the mobs not only on me, but grouped up and facing away from you as well. I'm convinced non of this would be happening if it weren't for a vocal minority of players trying out WAR and not getting the point.
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  6. #16
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Zodiark
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    Archer Lv 100
    but pld always had circle, it just didnt do any damage
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  7. #17
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    Lomea I'ramaloce
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallis View Post
    If only there were more DPS and healers like you who noticed and APPRECIATED the work I was putting in to keep the mobs not only on me, but grouped up and facing away from you as well. I'm convinced non of this would be happening if it weren't for a vocal minority of players trying out WAR and not getting the point.
    I imagine most DPS with line AoEs appreciate it, even if they don't understand the cause of the superior positioning. I for sure did when I was still playing DRG.
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  8. #18
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by baklava151 View Post
    Don't feel like DRK really needs it, Flood of Shadow generally does a good job of grabbing enemies for me.
    No, just make Flood of Darkness/Shadow another circle instead of straight line. :^)
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  9. #19
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    Elise D'lala
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    Honestly who wouldnt want cones?

    Wouldnt GNB want their aoe combo to look more like friggin blasting zone?

    Or PLD getting reverse wings with their aoe combo!

    Or DRK doing wild forward swings instead of that rip-off of darkness x2!

    Give us cones!
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  10. #20
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    No thanks I'd quit tanking.
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