Healers need an overhaul

[Deceptus]

But Sage does have more dps skills, and even if you're still hitting the same button 65% of the time, it feels like there's more depth to it. The experience is what matters, I don't really care about the maths. If you analyse BLM I'm sure you find the top level is just spamming Fire IV 65% of the time right?

Tell me you don't play Sage without telling me you don't play Sage

It doesn't feel different once you understand the job. It's still one button more than 70% of the time in most content.

[QooEr]

Tell me you don't play Sage without telling me you don't play Sage

It doesn't feel different once you understand the job. It's still one button more than 70% of the time in most content.

sage feels different not because of the dps but because unlike whm it has like... actual heals to manage. sure, i still fall asleep on the wheel on sage but at least i have icarus and kerachole and cardia swapping to keep your attention.


it doesnt feel the same as whm unless there is absolutely 0 healing needed (meaning it probably only feels the same in like. expert roulette or p1s)

[rewd]

sage feels different not because of the dps but because unlike whm it has like... actual heals to manage. sure, i still fall asleep on the wheel on sage but at least i have icarus and kerachole and cardia swapping to keep your attention.


it doesnt feel the same as whm unless there is absolutely 0 healing needed (meaning it probably only feels the same in like. expert roulette or p1s)

Let's not kid ourselves and think that healers play differently. The only exception is AST which forces you to be a spastic monkey every 2m. After that mark, even AST falls again into the same 1111 vortex of boredom. Once you play one healer, you can play all of them.

What does "actual heals to manage" even mean? Every healer manages heals. Since when is Icarus a heal you manage? And Kardia swapping is pointless busywork that adds no benifts whatsover as you are encouraged to use your Addersgall as your MP economy is tied to it. If you have Addersgall available (and you will), there's not point in swapping Kardia targets if you can simply heal your target with a Druochole and get MP in the process. And Kerachole? What do you manage about it? It's on a 30s cooldown, it's available every time you need it.

If anything, WHM requires more "attention" because:

a) letting Addersgall overcap has barely any consequence, as Lucid Dreaming usage + occasional Addersgall will grant you all the MP you need; however, letting lilies overcap means potentially losing a 1240p nuke, which is a huge loss. On top of that, you always have to make sure you spent your AM before using another lily
b) WHM's sparse oGCDs kit needs more "thought" to be used efficiently because you either get strong tools on a long cooldown (Liturgy) or weak tools on a still long cooldown (just for the sake of comparison, Tetragammaton and Physis II share the same cooldown).

This "WHM is braindead [while the other healers are more difficult]" rhetoric is starting to feel very old and stale, especially considering that SGE is the topic of the discussion, as I would struggle to come up with a healer design that would feel even more braindead than SGE currently is.

[Nethereal]

sage feels different not because of the dps but because unlike whm it has like... actual heals to manage. sure, i still fall asleep on the wheel on sage but at least i have icarus and kerachole and cardia swapping to keep your attention.


it doesnt feel the same as whm unless there is absolutely 0 healing needed (meaning it probably only feels the same in like. expert roulette or p1s)

Sage to me before the lily changes has always been: SCH but different, WHM but good.